Vaccinate or not
"In this cross-sectional study of 540,667 adult hospitalized patients with COVID-19, 94.9% had at least 1 underlying medical condition. Hypertension and disorders of lipid metabolism were the most frequent, whereas obesity, diabetes with complication, anxiety disorders, and the total number of conditions were the strongest risk factors for severe COVID-19 illness."
https://www.cdc.gov/pcd/issues/2021/21_0123.htm
That's a peer reviewed article on the CDC website.
It's the elephant in the room at press conferences. We could have had a national campaign running since the start of cv19 to remove processed foods from the community, made housing affordable to reduce stress, reduce bureaucratic red tape to reduce stress, or whatever, etc, etc.
Reducing the instances of those preventable lifestyle diseases would help protect populations and free up the hospital system during and after cv19 malarkey has finished. Win win.
"Also have you considered that as the vaccine efficacy drops over time (after six months it becomes steadily less effective) that when we get near whatever the percentage of people vaccinated is to supposedly end restrictions, that the first round of people who had both doses of the vaccine will then maybe need another dose?
IE - can the effectiveness of the vaccine be maintained throughout the vaccinated population to reach herd immunity?"
Efficacy will definitely fall over time, hence we will end up with an annual booster.
As an aside, we haven't had an influenza 'season' for 2 years now thanks to hand washing, social distancing, masks, and lockdowns. Silver lining to every cloud I guess.
Also pollution in cities like Jakarta and LA have dropped dramatically
thermalben wrote:For mine, it's always been about how increasing spread of Covid-19 has the potential to overwhelm our hospitals.
Even though statistically most people stand a reasonable chance of surviving Covid-19 following medical intervention, they consume resources that are normally meant for other medical treatments. So, anyone booked in for surgery may have to reschedule, which could exacerbate their condition (for some, a few weeks delay can be the difference between life and death). There's also a major strain on the usual flow of ED patients if beds are not available.
Of course, we've been very lucky in Australia that the panedmic has been generally managed pretty well from this perspective (not overwhelming the hospitals). Other countries have not fared quite as well, with their hospital systems fully loaded with Covid patients.
Finding a balance is pretty hard, because there's no way to stress-test just how much we can cope with, especially with the new Delta strain which is significantly more transmissable. A Covid-19 outbreak without some kind of lockdown results in an exponential increase in hospital admissions. And once the genie is out of the bottle it's almost impossible to put back in.
100%. If COVID runs rampant, our very finite health resources will be expended...patients requiring admission for illnesses not related to COVID will not be able to get into hospital, and those admitted without COVID can potentially be exposed to the virus once in a hospital full of COVID patients.
Not the best news story. https://www.icelandreview.com/society/covid-19-in-iceland-vaccination-ha...
Blowin wrote:Alternatively Freeride - No otherwise healthy people have been admitted to ICU.
Blowin can you back up your claims with anything other than " I think? I mean where do you get your your info as it's completely at odds with everything I have posted for you to read? If you want to discredit the source of my posts well do a bit of homework ......
You are posting misinformation , which might be relevant in your neighbourhood, but on state /National and Global level , what you are saying is just not true......in fact you seem to be getting worse with your unsubstantiated claims ......really starting to look silly....
san Guine wrote:"Also have you considered that as the vaccine efficacy drops over time (after six months it becomes steadily less effective) that when we get near whatever the percentage of people vaccinated is to supposedly end restrictions, that the first round of people who had both doses of the vaccine will then maybe need another dose?
IE - can the effectiveness of the vaccine be maintained throughout the vaccinated population to reach herd immunity?"
Efficacy will definitely fall over time, hence we will end up with an annual booster.
As an aside, we haven't had an influenza 'season' for 2 years now thanks to hand washing, social distancing, masks, and lockdowns. Silver lining to every cloud I guess.
the Pfizer shows a decrease in the efficacy of it's vaccine of 2 % per mth after the second shot.....Pfizer admits this , and this was only on the Original Covid and not the Delta variant....so more to come............Moderna just released that their vaccine does not lose any efficacy after 2nd jab , 6 mths still going strong.....AZ seems to be working a treat in the UK , full crowds , no masks or socially distancing...all because of high vaccination rates...
We are all eventually going to catch Covid , but as we can now see in the UK/some states in the USA and any/all highly vaccinated country's are now doing very well....
yeah we might have to wait and see here in Oz , as the war of misinformation continues , social media, mainstream media, politicians etc......
Having just turned 60 a month ago, Scotty's great procurement rollout leaves me the choice of risking death (AZ) or risking death (no jab), so I decided to risk death (with AZ shot 1 in 10 days from now). I'm not really concerned but it shouldn't be like that, many people face an unnecessary stress and anxiety and hesitancy brought about by LNP incompetence. They have fucked this up completely.
Sotrovimab is a good example of the how the system works. GlaxoSmithKline have requested the TGA consider it for use as an early treatment for Covid.
There have been 3 (I think) large trials showing its efficacy and on this basis it is being considered for use. Is it better than Ivermectin? Don’t know, but the same push has not been given to Ivermectin and maybe if a 5000 person trial had been funded by someone somewhere (like Sotovimab) then we would know. However, sadly Ivermectin is off patent and lacking a large pharmaceutical company driving the research
Do you mean like this one tyler? It's got 5683 participants so far.
@adam 12 , we are the same vintage and I’m due for 2nd dose in a few weeks . I was never to concerned with contracting covid and more or less got it so I can eventually travel. I’m not liking the reports coming in from countries with high vaccination rates still having restrictions and some lockdowns. @tylerdurden , I’ve posted before that the TGA would welcome any pharmaceutical company that wants to submit ivermectin for treatment for early covid but as you pointed out no company wants to spend 20 million on trials for a no return off patent drug .
@JQ that’s a government funded trial not big pharma and some doctors are concerned at how the trials will be run .
Does the source of its funding effect the validity of its results Supa?
There's been concern from doctors about lots of trials hasn't there.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-iv...
@JQ , the source shouldn’t effect the outcome but how the trials are conducted will definitely effect the outcome . The FLCCC and Bird groups have both written a letter outlining their concerns . Dosage strength and combination of other vitamins is outlined in the FLCCC protocol. If you have cancer you are not treated with just one drug its a combination therapy same as treating covid is a combination therapy. Here is a wealth of information JQ if you want to have a look on protocol, media releases , testimonies and doctors credentials. There is also the statement about the principal trial. https://covid19criticalcare.com/
@JQ , I find it amazing how the media is now focused on the failure of a trial that is still waiting for a response from those that carried out the trial. Ignoring the other 60 trials and real world data from india , mexico and other countries. Plus in the 1600 interviews Dr Joseph Varon has done in the US , even though they praise his efforts, ivermectin is always edited out . A journalist lost her job from Fox news for not following instructions. You can view her and Dr Varon on the link I sent you under “ in the media “
Indeed Supa, the way the trials are run does effect the outcome, this has been seen with several of the existing Ivermectin trials hasn't it. Their methodologies have not matched best practice have they. This is what has led to the official position of insufficient evidence at this point in time.
Yeah insufficient evidence in trials is one thing , thousands of lives saved in hospitals and countries where governments distributed ivermectin with the vitamins is another thing . I believe if you watch the video on the link I sent you ‘ in the media ‘ ( its 17 minutes long ) you may get a understanding off censorship around ivermectin .
The media position on ivermectin does not effect the validity of the data though does it mate. Do you think the health dept. is basing their professional opinion on news reports?
JQ wrote:The media position on ivermectin does not effect the validity of the data though does it mate. Do you think the health dept. is basing their professional opinion on news reports?
Absolutely not , however I would love to see the response hunt and danny boy gave Professor Borody when he wrote to them in August 2020 , Borody said he couldn’t get past the TGA but I haven’t seen the reason . Any ideas ?
@JQ , in your opinion are all the 60 + trials on ivermectin all flawed and prove no evidence whatsoever? Makes you wonder why so many trials have been done and why more are currently underway and why the doctors promoting ivermectin bother ? What could doctors possibly gain by promoting ivermectin ? Why are the people these same doctors are treating ,recovering ? Do you think these Doctors are real ? Could all be a conspiracy eh ? But for what purpose ? Maybe its the Russians……..again
@ Supa,
I don't know, I've only read about a few.
In your opinion are all the criticisms (and there are many) regarding the quality and conclusions of the current and completed studies on ivermectin invalid. Why are the academics and doctors criticising these studies bothering? What do they possibly have to gain by voicing their criticisms? Why are so many of the large countries health departments voicing broadly similar positions? Do you think the people running the departments are real doctors? Could all be a conspiracy hey? But for what purpose?
Maybe it's the Chinese..... again.
Most of the information below are facts that can be easily checked . There are some opinions that will be proved fact or fiction in the future .
“I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.” – George Carlin
The pronouncements from the world’s favorite science troll, who hasn’t told the truth since March 2020 when he told the world masks were useless in stopping a virus from spreading, are coming fast and furious as more and more people ignore the fear propaganda. Alpha!!! Delta!!! and now Lambda!!! We’re all going to die unless we allow Big Pharma, with no liability for killing or maiming you with their experimental gene therapy, and totalitarian politicians to inject us with a concoction which doesn’t keep you from contracting covid or spreading covid. But it may kill you, give you a dose of blood clots, or a touch of myocarditis.
Fauci, Walensky, Biden, Pasaki and the rest of the Biden apparatchiks are liars, frauds, and fear mongering whores for Big Pharma. Fauci is the father of covid. He created it with his illegal gain of function funding, partnering with the communist government of China and is responsible for all the death and economic destruction wrought over the last eighteen months. He should be tried, convicted and executed for crimes against humanity. History should lump him with the likes of Josef Mengele and other mass murders.
He continues to lie on a daily basis and the cucks in the corporate propaganda media never question his lies or push back in any way. They are co-conspirators in this authoritarian attempt to override the Constitution and enslave you in a pharmacological techno gulag. The merger of Big Government with Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Finance and Big Corp endangers the rights, freedoms and liberties guaranteed to citizens under the U.S. Constitution.
They are pushing the country towards inevitable violent conflict by using their powers of coercion to force people to inject a substance into their bodies they do not need and do not want. For what ultimate purpose, we do not know. But we do know it is not about your health or the health of others. The current fear narrative being peddled by Fauci and Biden is the dreaded Delta variant, previously known as the Indian variant. Did you ever wonder why they had to rename the Indian variant? The chart below is why.
The panic porn media was running non-stop horror stories about India and the bodies piling up in the streets back in May. At that time less than 4% of the Indian population had been vaxxed. Even today it is only 7% of their 1.3 billion people. The talking heads, and Fauci, all pointed to India as a humanitarian tragedy in the making – using it as their fear tactic for getting the jab. But their narrative fell apart in a matter of weeks and you no longer hear about India on the nightly news.
That’s because cases crashed by 90% in the two months from the peak in May. And guess what? It happened with no vaccine rollout. They did send tens of millions of doses of ivermectin out to the population. These FACTS do not support the approved narrative being spun by our contemptible corrupt leaders. This flu is seasonal. Cases, based on a flawed PCR test, are already highly questionable. And 40,000 cases per day in a country with four times the population of the U.S. is a non-event. India’s deaths peaked at about 4,000 per day in May and are now 500 per day, down 88% with virtually no one getting jabbed.
How could India’s deaths per million (312) be 64% lower than the U.S. (866) when they have very few vaccinated, have a vast majority of their 1.3 billion people living in squalor, and have limited medical resources for the majority. Seems like a conundrum, and now you know why our pandemia panic patrol no longer speak about India. Just like they no longer speak about Sweden, because their no lockdown, no mask mandates, and no forced vaccination policies have worked spectacularly well, while not infringing upon the rights and freedoms of their citizens. These examples are an embarrassment to the Great Reset crowd and their agenda of controlling the masses through fear and threats.
After the powers that be were forced to rename the Indian variant to the scarier foreboding Delta variant, it was time to launch a new fear marketing campaign in the UK, where Boris the Great fulfilled his Great Reset obligation to Schwab, Gates and the rest of the Davos elite by ramping up restrictions, lockdowns and vaccine passports. What a good little obedient puppet he has become.
Cases, again based upon a PCR test just pulled from the market by the FDA, began to rise in early June. By mid-July they had already peaked, just as expected from a seasonal flu. They have now fallen by 50% from the peak. I bet you haven’t heard that on any propaganda spewing mainstream fake news media outlet. Twitter and Facebook would ban these facts and declare them misleading.
A strange thing happened on the way to impending doom, as a teary eyed Walensky would say. Deaths with covid barely budged upward during this surge. When daily cases had reached 50,000 in January there were 1,200 deaths “with” covid per day. During this scary outbreak of the dreaded Delta variant, the average deaths per day has been 80, 93% below the January peak. This isn’t due to masks or lockdowns. The Delta variant is not more transmissible and it is far less deadly than the first strain. It’s the flu bro.
You would think our “trust the science” gurus would actually observe what has actually happened in both India and the UK and give a fact based assessment to the American people. The Delta is far less lethal and nothing to be frightened about. Based on the facts, the cases will peak in early September and then fall precipitously thereafter. Delta is not scary. It’s not deadly. The cases are based upon a faulty PCR test that can’t tell the difference between the common cold, seasonal flu and covid. Real health experts would be telling people to calm down and stop worrying.
The U.S. is currently averaging 100,000 cases per day, the highest since mid February. At that time 3,000 people per day were dying with covid. Currently 470 people are dying per day with covid, 84% below the mid February amount. Oh the horror!!! We already know, based on the facts, those dying are over 80 years old, morbidly obese, and/or have 5 co-morbidities. This horrific surge is nothing more than a fart in the wind. But that is not how our glorious leaders are treating this farce of a flu.
This brings us to more “trusting the science”. These vaccines were hailed as the miracle to win the war against covid. Trump said so. Fauci said so. The executives at Pfizer, Moderna and J&J said so. They declared them 96% effective in keeping you from getting covid. There would just be a minuscule number of “breakthrough” cases. It’s more like a dam break of cases. They didn’t tout these drugs as reducing the symptoms of covid.
There is no one who got the jabs who thought they would get covid after being vaxxed. Watching the cognitive dissonance being exhibited by the vaxxed is a wonder to behold. They cannot admit they were misled and bamboozled by Fauci and friends.They cannot admit they made a mistake and still don’t know the long term effects of this gene altering therapy. And this doesn’t even take in to account the 12,000 deaths, 70,000 serious injuries and 550,000 adverse reactions reported into the VAERS system from the vaccines. And these numbers are likely under-reported by a factor of at least three.
The vaccine doesn’t keep you from catching covid, spreading covid or dying from covid. It doesn’t reduce the symptoms any more than ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine. The vaxxed can also carry a heavier viral load, making them even more dangerous. The anger which should be directed at the liars and frauds who touted this “cure” is instead being directed at those who choose to let their immune system do its job. The anger is being fomented by Biden and his acolytes blaming the current “surge” on those choosing to let their natural immunity work. More lies.
And we have the proof. Israel, the most vaxxed country in the world, is experiencing a surge in cases among the vaxxed, while neighboring Palestine with virtually no one vaxxed is experiencing no surge. And now Israel is locking down again. Are the vaccines causing the Delta surge? You certainly won’t get an honest answer from Fauci & Pfizer. There are hundreds of billions in profits to be made. Just get that booster and all will be well.
Copied and pasted directly from https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/08/07/trust-the-science-4/.
Best to attribute stuff when you post it Hutchy.
Doesn't look like a reputable source to me.
As I sad JQ the facts in the article are easy to check . If you would like to know the source of any particular fact that you are unable to source I will try and help .
@JQ , unfortunately many doctors , universities and institutions are influenced by big pharma in order to receive funding . The TGA relies on all its funding from drug companies , all 165 million it takes to run the TGA comes from sponsors. none of it comes from the government . Ive posted the link for this before it’s actually on their website. Strange world eh mate .
Can you check these ones for me Hutchy
Flu hospitalisations in NSW this winter (in percentage) verse Delta outbreak hospitalisations in NSW this winter (in percentage)
Israel having highest vaccination levels of any nation
thanks
Aussie AZ Home Brew Stout was rejected by most nation's entry points
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-australia-covid19-vaccine-...
Australia likewise refuses entry to AstraZeneca Vax brewed by Sub Continent Test Winners
https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/australia-says-no-to-covid-19-va...
World mostly refuses Pommie knock off AZ Stout Home Brews including our Aussie Chunky Custard.
(Meaning any future Oz Home Brew of any make is over before it begins without a Big Pharma Stamp.)
Any hope of Oz made vaccine must take on Global importance to comply for a Travel Pass...Right!
tbb earlier explained > VOC promotes compact wealthy nations with quarterly booster compliance.
Vast'n'sparse nations like Oz lag further behind with each VOC World travel compliance.
Clever crew know that "advanced rollouts fuel advanced VOCs" > #1 Business Nations boss boosters.
tbb promises to get back to that "Oopsie"
Lead business world boast they can rollout boosters quarterly.
Australia's top speed 1 booster 6 mths = half the speed of busy bee compact World Trade partners.
As tbb said...Larger isolated Nations with least Covid are the losers in new word Cyborg Superdome.
The Industry of Wealthy Covid mining Nations will ever set the rules...No Covid = No Club Card!
Covid has & will always be #1 Commodity...Billionaires / Wealthy Nations ramp 50-100% profits.
Sub Zero Covid Nation Leader requires #275 Booster Shots or an (app) to pick up some Covid from G7.
Boutique Booster imports are contraband & it's illegal to seek o/s Vaccinations.
Neither are currently legal or sought by our Govt for trade ...so we're grounded at 25% World speed.
No! Oz Govt have no idea on future VOC Trade Compliance...Wot.
Here's the pecking order as we know it but this will change within a month & monthly...
Booster Shots begin 2021 (Under Risk pretence but are Open to all business leaders & traders)
April + Sept France > June- UAE > July-Israel / Russia / Thailand > Aug- Hungary / Cambodia / Indonesia (Pause) WHO Booster Moratorium (Cough)
Sept - Germany / UK / USA > (Rest of 2021 will get filled in...)
2022 Boosters
Jan- Switzerland > Feb - Singapore / Australia
Note: Oz started just 2 months behind Israel > Now 7 months behind Israel's (#3) Booster Compliance
Crew can see that Oz will slip more so every minute, day by day for a World Standard Passport.
Fall behind 5 years in next 10 years of trade...Yet we hear nothing from Govt on Booster compliance?
At International level they're sorting out annexation of Labels to promote travel compliance
Rebranding Oz home brew under International Label.
Unsure as to wot rights Oz lose in that deal...could check...as original agreement is still about.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/pfizer-astraze...
29th March AZ New name Vaxzevria
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/eu-affairs/162559/astrazeneca-vaccine...
23rd July (Australia) adopts same AZ name change Vaxzevria for Travel Pass.
https://www.astrazeneca.com.au/media/press-releases/2021/recognition-of-...
Guessing TGA instantly approve Indian Home Brew as chasers for Oz Chunky Custard fans! (Cough!)
If not! Will we see a ban on AZ Oz Cricketers touring India? (There'll be Chunky Custard on PM's Face)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/astrazeneca-vaccine-rebrand-vaxze...
Pretty sure Aussies can now enter via the doggy door until Xmas if ya run like hell...after that?
Now ya know why Scomo plays down international travel.
Would posh 4th Phase Boost juicers really chance catching a disease in some hick 2 shot backwater?
Solution : Just spike yer Beer with a shot of Vax' & keep a head of the best...Cheers!
JQ said , “ In your opinion are all the criticisms (and there are many) regarding the quality and conclusions of the current and completed studies on ivermectin invalid. Why are the academics and doctors criticising these studies bothering? What do they possibly have to gain by voicing their criticisms? Why are so many of the large countries health departments voicing broadly similar positions? “ @JQ I understand why many are sceptical , if it’s not peer reviewed it’s quickly dismissed. Even the 18 peer reviewed trials are dismissed by many . The argument that peer reviewed isn’t always 100% correct can be used in all drug trials that make print . Do you know of any ICU doctors that have treated covid patients with ivermectin and the protocol used by FLCCC and Dr. Borody’s 3 combination protocol . who have found this treatment plan to be ineffective ? Are any of the doctors and academics who dismiss ivermectin currently working in ICU treating covid patients ? The large countries and health departments you mentioned seem to be all from the west . Are only the western countries to be believed in what works and what doesn’t ? What early treatment would you recommend JQ ? Remdesivir which has been proven to be largely ineffective ( Ive previously put up the link )was green lighted by Fauci under EUA after 4 trials and and the TGA has given it temporarily use authorisation for 2 years. Seems to be one rule for some drugs and another for others . With a safety record better than aspirin, ivermectin gets some crazy press .
Shoredump - As I said I think all the facts are easy to check . Took me one minute re Israel's numbers .
According to Reuters Covid tracker the are at 64% as of today . NYT as at Aug 7 said 60% . According to NYT Belgium and Sindapore are at 63% with Canada at 62% . UAE is much higher .
My conclusion is that they are NOT the highest in the world but at the very top of the ladder .
Re NSW . Was not in the article so recommend you do your own checking .
@shoredump , did you look at this earlier post ? I think iceland is 75% vaccinated https://www.icelandreview.com/society/covid-19-in-iceland-vaccination-ha...
Yeah, did my own checking before I asked, that’s why I asked..
I found Israel to have 59.3 % fully vaxxed and 22nd on the ladder.
I found the current NSW outbreak to have 10.23% of cases in hospital, which I’ll admit is only an assumption that that is much higher than the flu, bro
Yeah I did read that Supafreak, hugely disappointing. We definitely need better vaccines (along with a prophylactic like ivermectin) but herd immunity not being reached through vaccines is old news, it’s here to stay, like the Russian flu outbreak 200 years ago that had 200 a day being buried in london, they now believe was a caronavirus that is now one of the circulating flus or colds (sorry can’t remember which but I got it from this thread) but at least vaccines are doing an excellent job in keeping people out of hospital. That likely means dodging the life shortening ongoing problems bullet that any hospitalisation does
A bit like climate change deniers think pro climate change advocates think the world is going to end. They don’t. They just think there will be more cyclones for coastal communities, more severe drought and bushfires, more mudslides, that type of thing. It’s already playing out.
Covid deniers think pro vaxxers believe the worlds population are going to die and they are panicking. They don’t. They just want to avoid hospital and the damage done to their bodies in that process. Maybe they’re a surfer that likes to be out on 8ft days but post severe covid their maximum will be 4-6ft, thats to their long term health issues. Maybe they’ll lose 3 years with their grandkids and stop bushwalking 5 years before they naturally would have. Plenty of covid deniers keep sprouting old news like it’s the boomer remover disease, even though the reality is that 80% of the current nsw hospitalisations are < 60 of age
Bill Gates involvement with Covid and the World Economic Forum ( WEF ) has been my number one concern . Here are some facts with sources .
1. Event 201 Pandemic Table Top Exercise . Oct 18 , 2019 NY ( before Covid ) Hosted by John Hopkins Centre for Health Security in partnership with the WEF and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation( GF )- Google .
2. Gates saying healthier people leads to fewer children . Video on Utube . Bill's father and Bill are fixated of population growth . As everyone should know population growth ONLY declines with economic advancement eg China getting rid of One Child policy .
3. Billionaires Try to Shrink World Population - Wall Street Journal May 26 2009 .
4. FDA and GF sign MOU to establish a framework for collaboration . FDA Bulletin 7/5/2017 .
5. GF donates to Fauci NIH ( will come back with amount ) . Fauci's wife Christine Grady is the Chief of department of bioethics ( ethical questions of testing vaccines ) at the National Institute of Health - google .
6. GF funds 7 new factories for Covid Vaccines - WEF 6th April 2020 .
7. WEF trying to end meat production (I love steak !) by promoting plant protein . 27 April 2020 - google or WEF .
8. GF working to bring in Digital ID . With Mastercard ( Wellness Pass ) and GAVI ( will mention them soon ) to have a disease status , vaccine record and payments system - multiple sources .
Tony Blair - "People will need digital ID to prove disease status "- Independent .
9. GF donations ( only chose a section of their donations all in $US .1. CDC $100m . To develop Gene based HIV treatment ( Africa ) . Source AJMC Oct 29 2019 .2. FDA ( already mentioned above . 3. John Hopkins $870m 4. GAVI $3b 5. $18m NIH ( Fauci ) 6. WHO $4.3B . Of course all tax deductible .
Gates might be a really nice guy and as he said his friendship with Epstein was a mistake .
This is bit of a worry , Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/. Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.
You’ve got to laugh at the suggestion that flu has simply disappeared because of social distancing, masks and lockdowns. No one is doing any of those things around here and they weren’t doing them in Sydney or Melbourne for the first half of winter.
I know plenty of people who’ve been crook but no one wants to go to the doctor for it. Those that do get their illness rebranded.
Shore dump . You seen nice but then show your true colours . I am not trying to disceive anyone . You would have to agree that Israel's vax rates are high and in no way is the articles assumptions compromised . Since you are a good checker look at the BOM's stats on recent cyclone activity . Also check the Australian Institute of Marine Science recent report on the Great Barrier Reef . Doing exceptionally well due to the lack of cyclone activity and star fish . Here is something I would bet you do not know but please continue to do your D&D .
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Most people have NEVER heard of the Beaufort Gyre, a massive wind-driven current in the Arctic Ocean that actually has far more influence over sea ice than anything we can throw into the atmosphere. The Beaufort Gyre has been regulating climate and sea ice formation for millennia. Recently, however, something has changed; it is not something that would create global warming but threatens a new Ice Age.
There is a normal cycle that appears to be about 5.4 years where it reverses direction and spins counter-clockwise, expelling ice and freshwater into the eastern Arctic Ocean and the North Atlantic. The 5.4-year cycle is interesting for it is two pi cycle intervals of 8.6. The immediate cycle has suddenly expanded to two 8.6-year intervals, bringing it to 17.2 years as we head into 2022.
What you must understand is that this Beaufort Gyre now holds as much freshwater as all of the Great Lakes combined. Why is that important? Saltwater freezes at a lower temperature than the 32 degrees F at which freshwater freezes. The difference between the air temperature and the freezing point of saltwater is bigger than the difference between the air temperature and the freezing point of fresh water. This makes the ice with salt on it melt faster, which is why we salt the roads in an ice storm.
Now, think of the Beaufort Gyre as a carousel of ice and freshwater. Because it is now spinning both faster and in its usual clockwise direction, it has been collecting more and more freshwater from the three main sources:
Melting sea ice
Runoff from the Arctic Ocean from Russian and North American rivers
Lower saltwater coming in from the Bering Sea
Indeed, Yale has warned that this current could “Cool the Climate in Europe,” which is precisely what we are witnessing. Cyclically, the Beaufort Gyre will reverse direction, and when it does the clear and present danger will be the natural expulsion of a massive amount of icy fresh water into the North Atlantic. Remember now, freshwater freezes faster than saltwater.
This is not a theory. We have previous records of reversals in this cycle of the Beaufort Gyre from the 1960s and 1970s, where there was a surge of fresh Arctic water released into the North Atlantic that resulted in the water freezing.
@hutchy , what I don’t understand about Bill Gates is , he wants to vaccinate the world believing it’s the only solution. With world hunger killing 9 million a year why doesn’t he try feeding children instead of sticking a needle in them ?
Oh Dear.....
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/
As I have said Supafreak I am only trying to give facts not opinions . I try to find good facts and make up my own opinions . Others can and should make up their own minds . People with biases when never even listen to facts that do not support their view . As I also said most opinions will be proved fact or fiction in the future .
I am concerned that my daughters want and may be mandated to have the vaccines . I do not give a shit about me and am happy to have the necessary one , two , three , four .....etc to shut up others .
Here’s the CDC saying on TV that the vaccines do not prevent transmission and that the vaccines are really only good for lessened symptoms…..even though if you’re a healthy person you will be very, very, very unlucky to get seriously ill anyway.
So what’s the point of a vaccine passport now?
Here’s the CDC saying on TV that the vaccines do not prevent transmission and that the vaccines are really only good for lessened symptoms…..even though if you’re a healthy person you will be very, very, very unlucky to get seriously ill anyway.
So what’s the point of a vaccine passport now?
https://rumble.com/vkscco-cdcs-dr.-rochelle-walensky-admits.html
I will say that Gates has so much money that he is probably not doing it for this reason . Microsoft shares are doing well . IF that is the case it only leaves power and influence as a motive .
Blowin wrote:You’ve got to laugh at the suggestion that flu has simply disappeared because of social distancing, masks and lockdowns. No one is doing any of those things around here and they weren’t doing them in Sydney or Melbourne for the first half of winter.
I know plenty of people who’ve been crook but no one wants to go to the doctor for it. Those that do get their illness rebranded.
Do you understand that influenza is not the common cold?
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/cda-surv...
I knew I fucked up when I saw my post udo . Not my only source luckily . I work in the financial markets and check his site for Socrates views not his . I did check the facts though before posting the article I posted before ( was not from this site ) .
The point I’m making about sotrovimab is how the research has evolved and progressed, with now a pharmaceutical company submitting a request to the TGA, and how this contrasts to Ivermectin.
It’s not in the interest of any pharma company to do the same thing with Ivermectin because even if they were successful then the other manufacturers would benefit without having put the time and cash in to get it approved.
It’s not limited to Ivermectin, other off-patent drugs that are repurposed have the same problem
Anybody else surprised to see HCQ in this list ? EVIDENCE
UNDER REVIEW
Continuously reviewing new evidence to update recommendations and address new priority questions
We are currently reviewing evidence to develop recommendations and flowcharts to guide practice in areas including:
Budesonide
Canakinumab
Corticosteroids
Hydroxychloroquine plus azithromycin
Imatinib
Immunoglobulin plus methylprednisolone
Proxalutimide
Remdesivir
Tocilizumab
Care of people with Post-acute COVID-19 https://covid19evidence.net.au/. I wrote to them 3 weeks ago enquiring about ivermectin but until now no response .
What’s the problem supa?
[ Disclaimer ] No Experts were Woken Up during tonight's reveal.
Pre Vax Covid World = 232,172 cases/day + 5,342 Deaths/day (World locks Down)
Vaccinated Covid World = 547,243 cases/day + 10,807 Deaths/day ( 2x Covid World opens Up?)
World Cases are currently higher than 1st day of Rollout & rising fast.
World Deaths are currently higher than 1st day of Rollout & rising fast
NSW > Qld Vax rates are Soaring as Rollout Covid cases are equally soaring
Vic > 2nd Vax wave again ramps their 2nd Rollout Covid wave..(Can check Oz graph > Vax = Cases)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-02/charting-australias-covid-vaccine...
https://covid-19-au.com/
List of All Top 32 Nations with over 50% fully vaccinated population.
Features All 5 leading Delta Nations = UK > US > Denmark > Germany > France
27 of these Nations are ramping covid > Responsible for World Covid / VOC Rise...(This is standard )
5 /32 Nations that are currently shedding Covid at record speed by dumping record 100% > 300% Vax
5 nations > Malta > Uruguay > Spain > Hungary > Luxembourg (re: Vax/100/day) Goodbye Vax & Goodbye Covid.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=URY~ESP~MLT~HUN~LUX
Current Top 5 Vax Ramperz > Top 5 super spreaders ( Peak Vax = Peak Covid )
Mexico > Thailand > Philippines > Kazakhstan > Vietnam (re: vax/100/day)
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=MEX~THA~PHL~KGZ~VNM
tbb has shown this on a regular basis since January...It's not Delta >
(Ramp Vax = Ramp Covid) vs ( Dump Vax = Dump Covid ) Everyone's doing exactly that...Everyone!
Leaders Scream & raid homes > More Vax > More Covid > More Death > More! More! More! (insane!)
So how does tbb know how to Orchestrate a Rollout & why is no one reporting most important truth?
Truthfully! tbb is still too stupid to ask if yer supposed to Conduct or Orchestrate a Rollout? No idea!
& for tbb's next trick...might just reveal how this trick is done...nothing tricky about it...more of a secret!
Sure! Looks like tbb is prodding about & getting lucky - scoring 10's as he sits on the remote!
Can assure the crew...that's not what this is about, it's far more serious...this is a cross checking process.
tbb is rolling this out first so when & if tbb shares the whole deal he won't be laughed off...ha! ha! As if!
Crew deserve a bonus demo...
Trick works less on > UK / Oz wiped Phase 1 Stats + US wipe 'Current' Dem State Breakthru Stats
eg: US are suppressing Breakthru Covid by Law...> All TV cases > Unvaxed > Tomorrow > Unvaxed
Infected Vaxerz have to pay $500 for a test & no Doctor will accept the result....Cases read way higher.
tbb promised a magic trick ...Israel over 7 months Vax/100/Day = Covid cases/day (One of the same!)
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~ISR
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
tbb needs a little more time as the Monkey Vax tests are one bookend ...(The incubation Guts are there)
Decypher this religious Vax VOC outbreak trick is the other book end...(Experts) Left that on the hook!
Crew can see, if the Rollout Stat formulae is faultless by design then we should be able to out this gig!
tbb only needs to unlock one more piece of the puzzle.
Have already done it twice in my head but just as stupidly lost it forever twice! That's how it goes!
bonza wrote:What’s the problem supa?
No problem just surprised to see HCQ on the list considering in Qld doctors can be fined $13,000 and up to 6 months jail for prescribing it to treat covid.
@bonza , to me this could be a problem or am I reading this wrong ? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/. Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated.
I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?