COVID-19 Health System Overload Forecaster
simba wrote:Fauci
https://twitter.com/logicturn/status/1487241472470568962?s=21
yep.
Roadkill wrote:The funniest thing today is snowflake and village idiot trying to convince others they care about and offer respect to our healthcare workers.
When 95%+ of the healthcare workers they say they care about and respect, just want all to get vaccinated and have also stated with medical fact that vaccines are far safer than getting covid. Vaccines alleviates pressure on hospitals and healthcare staff.
No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
It’s nothing to do with me not being vaccinated.
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:The funniest thing today is snowflake and village idiot trying to convince others they care about and offer respect to our healthcare workers.
When 95%+ of the healthcare workers they say they care about and respect, just want all to get vaccinated and have also stated with medical fact that vaccines are far safer than getting covid. Vaccines alleviates pressure on hospitals and healthcare staff.
No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
Funny, the healthcare workers you say you care about and respect say, covid vaccinations work.
Double down, burleigh. You prove with every post how little you care about Australian healthcare workers. You live in your own “I don’t give a fuck about anyone but me” bubble.
indo-dreaming wrote:Ben Harding wrote:old-dog wrote:@ blowin and Indo, O.K. agreed he's not in the same league as Jim Banks but I've seen enough Joe Rogan podcasts to work out he's a far right opportunist getting paid 100 million bucks from Spotify to provide a platform for conspiracy nutters and covid misinformation. He lost me when he said Alex Jones was right about micro chips being injected into arms or that Joe Biden was funding experiments on beagle puppies putting their heads in cages full of sand flies.
I am sick of the whole woke left PC apologists too but this guy is a bit too extreme right for me, over 1000 doctors tried to have him shut down for his anti vax misinformation. Still there is no money to be made from agreeing with the 99% of experts. I'm with Neil Young on this one. Cheers fellas.Sure, far right on some things like his despisal of identity politics and far left on others like his call for drug reform and decriminalisation. Like most humans his politics appear to be a mash up. He does come across as consistantly anti-establishment though, which would be far left? Not unlike Neil Young (*back in the day anyway).
Wasn't it only 270 doctors? Even so, 1000 doctor's is only 0.1 of the registered phsycians in the United states. A significant percentage of those signatories weren't registered physicians either. Did you see the list? A real mix of crew. Anyway, not a large number considering the reach potential (global) of online petitions wouldn't you say. I wouldn't take too much comfort in the numbers supporting the request for censorship as they were tiny in the grand scheme of things.
"a far right opportunist"
Really???
He see's himself as left leaning, many people that are left leaning have ideals similar to his like over identity politics or dont want to get the Covid Jab etc.
Funny how people label people based on one or two beliefs, even myself a proud conservative have lots of traditionally left leaning ideals, im not a fan of religion for instance, i do believe in a certain level of pubic funded health care, and im open to sensible drug reform, and think multicultural society can be a good thing if managed correctly, pro renewables too (although understand the need for other fuel sources during a transition period) just a few examples.
Oh and apparently weirdly enough being pro vax is now viewed as left leaning by some and im pro vax.
But i also hold lots of conservative beliefs social and economical, so see myself as a conservative.
BTW. I dont know what Alex Jones said about microchips being injected into humans, but it is a real thing, it's no secret, you can even get them for vaccine passports, off course it's not compulsory anywhere to have them but we really dont know what the future holds 20 to 50 years time.
And the beagle sand fly thing well i dont know if it's been totally busted https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/answering-questions-about-beaglegate/
Even seems Peta believe it, does that make them right wing? https://www.peta.org/blog/fauci-niaid-puppies-animal-testing/
I agree, it wasn’t me who called him "a far right opportunist".
I am tired of debating back and forth, but also want to get my points across, so I went for the middle ground. There has to be another way to communicate with people here rather than just being a 24/7 contrarian, dismissing or arguing against anything that one doesn't agree with.
I looked up all the things you did and found that it was as inconclusive as you've found it to be.
"Anyone who attended the "Club Bootylicious" event at The Library from 9:30pm on Saturday, January 22, until 5am on Sunday, January 23, is urged to get tested immediately and isolate until receiving a negative result."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/wa-records-new-local-covid-cases-...
Thoughts and best wishes for any Swellnet forums WA members who may have been exposed at this event.
Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:The funniest thing today is snowflake and village idiot trying to convince others they care about and offer respect to our healthcare workers.
When 95%+ of the healthcare workers they say they care about and respect, just want all to get vaccinated and have also stated with medical fact that vaccines are far safer than getting covid. Vaccines alleviates pressure on hospitals and healthcare staff.
No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
Funny, the healthcare workers you say you care about and respect say, covid vaccinations work.
Double down, burleigh. You prove with every post how little you care about Australian healthcare workers. You live in your own “I don’t give a fuck about anyone but me” bubble.
Seeming that the vaccine does not stop transmission and I am at extremely low risk of needing anything more than a lay down and Panadol if I catch omo-cold and the fact that I am 100% free from any adverse reactions I would say that I made the right decision based on my needs.
Josh leading by example 
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anyone care to caption this photo ?
velocityjohnno wrote:"Anyone who attended the "Club Bootylicious" event at The Library from 9:30pm on Saturday, January 22, until 5am on Sunday, January 23, is urged to get tested immediately and isolate until receiving a negative result."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/wa-records-new-local-covid-cases-...
Thoughts and best wishes for any Swellnet forums WA members who may have been exposed at this event.
ah hallelujah vj .
burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:burleigh wrote:Roadkill wrote:The funniest thing today is snowflake and village idiot trying to convince others they care about and offer respect to our healthcare workers.
When 95%+ of the healthcare workers they say they care about and respect, just want all to get vaccinated and have also stated with medical fact that vaccines are far safer than getting covid. Vaccines alleviates pressure on hospitals and healthcare staff.
No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
Funny, the healthcare workers you say you care about and respect say, covid vaccinations work.
Double down, burleigh. You prove with every post how little you care about Australian healthcare workers. You live in your own “I don’t give a fuck about anyone but me” bubble.Seeming that the vaccine does not stop transmission and I am at extremely low risk of needing anything more than a lay down and Panadol if I catch omo-cold and the fact that I am 100% free from any adverse reactions I would say that I made the right decision based on my needs.
“I don’t give a fuck about anyone but me”
Confirmed. Thx for that.
The real Donald Trump wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:"Anyone who attended the "Club Bootylicious" event at The Library from 9:30pm on Saturday, January 22, until 5am on Sunday, January 23, is urged to get tested immediately and isolate until receiving a negative result."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/wa-records-new-local-covid-cases-...
Thoughts and best wishes for any Swellnet forums WA members who may have been exposed at this event.
ah hallelujah vj .
Did anyone spot the double entendre?? ;)
velocityjohnno wrote:The real Donald Trump wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:"Anyone who attended the "Club Bootylicious" event at The Library from 9:30pm on Saturday, January 22, until 5am on Sunday, January 23, is urged to get tested immediately and isolate until receiving a negative result."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/wa-records-new-local-covid-cases-...
Thoughts and best wishes for any Swellnet forums WA members who may have been exposed at this event.
ah hallelujah vj .
Did anyone spot the double entendre?? ;)
I do now.. :)
Ben Harding wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Ben Harding wrote:old-dog wrote:@ blowin and Indo, O.K. agreed he's not in the same league as Jim Banks but I've seen enough Joe Rogan podcasts to work out he's a far right opportunist getting paid 100 million bucks from Spotify to provide a platform for conspiracy nutters and covid misinformation. He lost me when he said Alex Jones was right about micro chips being injected into arms or that Joe Biden was funding experiments on beagle puppies putting their heads in cages full of sand flies.
I am sick of the whole woke left PC apologists too but this guy is a bit too extreme right for me, over 1000 doctors tried to have him shut down for his anti vax misinformation. Still there is no money to be made from agreeing with the 99% of experts. I'm with Neil Young on this one. Cheers fellas.Sure, far right on some things like his despisal of identity politics and far left on others like his call for drug reform and decriminalisation. Like most humans his politics appear to be a mash up. He does come across as consistantly anti-establishment though, which would be far left? Not unlike Neil Young (*back in the day anyway).
Wasn't it only 270 doctors? Even so, 1000 doctor's is only 0.1 of the registered phsycians in the United states. A significant percentage of those signatories weren't registered physicians either. Did you see the list? A real mix of crew. Anyway, not a large number considering the reach potential (global) of online petitions wouldn't you say. I wouldn't take too much comfort in the numbers supporting the request for censorship as they were tiny in the grand scheme of things.
"a far right opportunist"
Really???
He see's himself as left leaning, many people that are left leaning have ideals similar to his like over identity politics or dont want to get the Covid Jab etc.
Funny how people label people based on one or two beliefs, even myself a proud conservative have lots of traditionally left leaning ideals, im not a fan of religion for instance, i do believe in a certain level of pubic funded health care, and im open to sensible drug reform, and think multicultural society can be a good thing if managed correctly, pro renewables too (although understand the need for other fuel sources during a transition period) just a few examples.
Oh and apparently weirdly enough being pro vax is now viewed as left leaning by some and im pro vax.
But i also hold lots of conservative beliefs social and economical, so see myself as a conservative.
BTW. I dont know what Alex Jones said about microchips being injected into humans, but it is a real thing, it's no secret, you can even get them for vaccine passports, off course it's not compulsory anywhere to have them but we really dont know what the future holds 20 to 50 years time.
And the beagle sand fly thing well i dont know if it's been totally busted https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/answering-questions-about-beaglegate/
Even seems Peta believe it, does that make them right wing? https://www.peta.org/blog/fauci-niaid-puppies-animal-testing/
I agree, it wasn’t me who called him "a far right opportunist".
I am tired of debating back and forth, but also want to get my points across, so I went for the middle ground. There has to be another way to communicate with people here rather than just being a 24/7 contrarian, dismissing or arguing against anything that one doesn't agree with.
I looked up all the things you did and found that it was as inconclusive as you've found it to be.
Yeah i wasn't necessarily aiming my reply at you, just joining in the conversation. :)
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Supafreak wrote:Josh leading by example
best online photo sharing site
anyone care to caption this photo ?
Rules are rules! He's outside! No mask needed ;)
burleigh wrote:No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
It’s nothing to do with me not being vaccinated.
Lol - thank fuck you or anyone of similar beliefs is not in charge, or anyone near a position of authority.
I can see it now:
New virus comes along, seems to be causing severe respiratory issues, reports of patients 'drowing' unable to breathe.
Australia's chief health advisor (CHA), Burleigh, mandates eating healthy, exercising, and tells everyone that they'll be fine this is nothing. Scientists and infections disease experts plead with him to respond differently.
All of a sudden the same idiots which are whinging about the jab are the same ones whinging about not getting access to maccas.
Also, 10s of thousands of people needlessly die, either because they're immunocompromised, have unknown underlying conditions, over 65 or just plain unlucky.
CHA Burleigh gets ripped apart by protesters and the media, is the subject of a royal commission, and spends the rest of his days in gaol.
Stok wrote:Supafreak wrote:Josh leading by example
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anyone care to caption this photo ?Rules are rules! He's outside! No mask needed ;)
Oh ok so no need to social distance outside , yep no problem , what you gonna say next stok ? They are members of his immediate family ? Or maybe he’s just got brain fog.
Looking at those WA daily numbers, I get the feeling they are treading a path we know only too well here in Vic... McGowan has set in place changes to isolation/essential workers etc and this will depend on certain case levels - at least he's planned ahead. The dream run could be over.
Good article on just how much they boomed being covid free, and what it was like:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-24/wa-border-opening-delayed-but-for...
"The normality experienced by many West Australians is backed by hard economic numbers.
Business investment in WA has grown over the past two financial years, accounting for 19.2 per cent of Australia’s total in 2020-21.
University of Western Australia economics professor Peter Robertson said once it became apparent WA was able to keep COVID-19 out and avoid the lockdowns that hurt the national economy, it buoyed consumer confidence.
“People have … been able to live a very normal life without masks 90 per cent of the time,” he said.
“Through 2021, the economy really boomed. People’s confidence was high, investor confidence was high, the export sector continued to thrive despite the tariff bans by China.” "
Stok wrote:burleigh wrote:No mate, healthcare workers should have been supported well before covid, and when covid arrived the powers should have not built covid camps and put ALL their efforts into supporting health.
Yet they coerced citizens into an experimental juice that now does not work.
They put everything on black and it landed on red.
It’s nothing to do with me not being vaccinated.
Lol - thank fuck you or anyone of similar beliefs is not in charge, or anyone near a position of authority.
I can see it now:
New virus comes along, seems to be causing severe respiratory issues, reports of patients 'drowing' unable to breathe.Australia's chief health advisor (CHA), Burleigh, mandates eating healthy, exercising, and tells everyone that they'll be fine this is nothing. Scientists and infections disease experts plead with him to respond differently.
All of a sudden the same idiots which are whinging about the jab are the same ones whinging about not getting access to maccas.
Also, 10s of thousands of people needlessly die, either because they're immunocompromised, have unknown underlying conditions, over 65 or just plain unlucky.
CHA Burleigh gets ripped apart by protesters and the media, is the subject of a royal commission, and spends the rest of his days in gaol.
Then the public realise it was a mild flu. Sound familiar?
Remember the videos of the people dropping dead in the streets of China at the beginning of Covid? Lol
Here is a good fear mongering video and a good laugh for you:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10808633/coronavirus-wuhan-zombieland/
Roadkill wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:The real Donald Trump wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:"Anyone who attended the "Club Bootylicious" event at The Library from 9:30pm on Saturday, January 22, until 5am on Sunday, January 23, is urged to get tested immediately and isolate until receiving a negative result."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/wa-records-new-local-covid-cases-...
Thoughts and best wishes for any Swellnet forums WA members who may have been exposed at this event.
ah hallelujah vj .
Did anyone spot the double entendre?? ;)
I do now.. :)
Worked with some Kiwi farmhands who had invented a pub/nightclub game in this very theme, too dangerous to mention how it was played here for those quiet, impressionable minds who may be reading...
shoredump wrote:@SanGuine said “ Thanks Supa, doing it real tough over the last 2 months, I'm cooked.
I have totally lost faith in our leaders (both political and administrative) to do anything but throw front-line health care workers under the proverbial bus.
We are totally expendible...”Firstly can I say with my hand on my heart a sincere thank you from myself, my family and the community. We all know you guys n gals are the superhero’s of the times and we can only imagine how insanely tough it must be
The complete lack of boosting of the health system in 20/21 is nothing short of outrageous. I hope at least there’s a big fat tax free government cheque coming your way at the end of all this. It will be well deserved.
Outside of this glaring lack of support, I would argue that our leaders have done the right thing to “let it rip” now we have found our vaccination peak, and thanks to the helping hand of omicron. You might find that hard to agree with right now and that’s understandable. Just know this. Many of us have been thrown under the bus with this pandemic, and I guess it’s because there is no easy or right fix. We are all making this up as we go. Coming from an aviation perspective, I can tell you I know people who have lost their jobs, their homes, their marriages and nearly their sanity. Different stages of the pandemic response will hit all sectors differently. For us, this is a great stage of the pandemic, after two years of hell there is now hope. I can tell you I came within about 4 weeks of having to sell my home, as my daughters bedroom is in that home, it’s a big deal. Labouring in the sun with 20 year olds and withdrawing tens of thousands of dollars from my supa are just two things I did to help flatten the curve for you guys, for us all. So I can appreciate you’re exhausted, but I just thought it might make it easier for you if you could see a different perspective and understood the current situation to be as a minimum, fair.
Peace and barrels for you brother, this won’t last forever. PS that daughter of mine begins her nursing degree in February
This is a really important comment. Imagine if SG Didn’t own his home. If only they could apply the Let it rip rules universally. i.e. i can go sit in tennis stadium with hundred of others or sink piss in a pub or dine in a cafe or sit on a bus ferry or train but I can’t walk my kid into their kindy or 1st week of school. Then of course if you are a footballer rich famous both or a politician nothing has changed. It’s been nearly 3 years if this rules for some and Rules for others bullshit. Over it.
Faulty court jester gives the AO VIPs a serve
17th Jan tbb isolated 3 players that breached AO/Oz Covid Rules.
https://www.swellnet.com/comment/792032
These very same Cheats were rewarded by Masses for their unsportsmanlike behaviour.
All 3 Drug Cheats feature in the Finals (vs) The only clean bloods were labelled cheats & deported.
tbb will share how this ugly truth played out!
Women's Finalist
Ash : "I love that Hesitant chick!" WTF (VIP Tennis world returns serve with a hissy fit!)
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1538672/Ash-Barty-Australian-Open...
So Why did #1 put her head on the chopping block....(Easy! VIP Drug Cheat guilt complex!)
March Ash/Coach : We were looking at different avenues to get an Olympic VIP vax. (Oz is a no show!)
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/no1-barty-among-players-get-cov...
19th April > Joe's warp speed open jabz were way too slow for Ash's 19th April Stuttgart deadline.
(31st March) South Carolina fast tracked a one shot solution for part time residents. (Ticks all boxes!)
5-11th April WTA Charleston 500 hooks up selected players with "Unofficial" VIP a/h (J&J) Dirty Hits.
Idea being that this other worldly queue jump bubble is a perfect match for Tennis Brat'z ethos!
Keep telling themselves they're not queue jumping ahead of first nation / Frontline in US / Oz (Cough!)
Check "Unofficial WTA Vax Card" > Dose #4 + Double Hub Stamped...well outta order! (Any Signature?)
https://www.tennismajors.com/uncategorized/charleston-offers-all-players...
Vax Side Effects (Friday! Ash gets her Vax!) > How do we know this? (Apart from mid Tournament call!)
Ash goes down in 2 lame sets! Broken 5 times + 24 unforced errors + converts just 2/14 break points
Ash throws 4 straight games & 4 straight points to tank her Quarter Final...+ more Mass Vax reactions...
https://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/ash-barty-knocked-out-of-wta-charle...
Punters question ALL results : "When was the last time that all Top 20 players never made the Semis?"
Play the vid & see if you reckon Ash looks the full quid...she's spent & grumpy & storms off!
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/tennis-ash-barty-stunned-by-australian-open-...
WTA pimps out #1 Mass Drug Cheats > Too stoned outta their brains & too ill to compete. Game over!
12th April CDC : Pause! WTA J&J is too dangerous for women aged 18-48 ...
"Oh Shit! That's our Vax! That's our Girls!" (WTA Vaxed Players must not die on the courts!)
As tbb early pointed out that an ATP player has never fully recovered from ATP July Vax.
Ash said she felt like shit after the Vax, but they failed to bump off our champ...she pulled thru...
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0413-JJ-vaccine.html
President steps in & orders destruction of all faulty Baltimore J&J Vax...
Doses were already shipped to EU / Canada / Mexico / S Africa (Not locally is said, but hard to believe!)
Reckon WTA might have found a novel way to move a few a/h J&J doses?
We're to assume the Girls got wiped out by the Dutch blend > (TGA 25th June > US (redo) 30th July)
Ash can never be a WTA Vax Centerfold...much easier to counter the VIP guilt trip with a dose of reality.
Oh! Wow! There's a nice non corruptible hesitant WTA player...she don't seem like a drug cheat!
Keep Away Ash! She's the Devil's Daughter & her laughter is nowhere near as infectious as the VIPs.
If any here think that WTA mass doping 20 Tennis chicks is for the better...scoreboard says different!
Dopey WADA back peddle another 50 yrs...Mandated IOC Vax boosts Chinese WR medal haul.
Men's Finalist
20th Dec > [+] Nadal + [+][+] 2x coaches after infecting the King of Spain in Mutant HQ!
Nadal said he's no guarantee for AO & due to Covid... a trip to Melbourne is in doubt
31st Dec (Arrival) Australian Rules were for [+] Nadal to Isolate for 14 days before travelling to Oz.
6th Jan - Since shortening to 7 days & in most states...
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/tennis/news/novak-djokovic-australia-cov....
31st Dec Nadal clearly breaches Oz Borders & laughs off Oz Covid Vax laws on AO Centre Court.
Nadal's sick VIP Covid breach Joke : ) Don't tell anyone : ) here I am (4 days early shitting on yer Court!)
https://sports.ndtv.com/tennis/rafael-nadal-arrives-in-melbourne-ahead-o...
This article even spells out the AO VIPs infectious Killing spree!
Nadal : " Quick! Look over there > Evil Unvaxed Beast & Claims the Joker is out to behead Australians!
He should be banned forever from everything on Earth...just in case he wins more trophies than me!
Upside down world where #1 Assassin orchestrates private armies to forbid a Hesitant World Champ.
ASIO / Scotland Yard / FBI / NATO plan to Mass Vax Godzilla in The Right Thing Arena.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-29/bbc-investigation-raises-doubts-t...
Origin of Jokers infection will end the Vax Wars but Covid origin can wait another 100 years!
Bully Nadal's AO infectious VIP breach remains the Gold Standard...(Zombies : All Hail Vax!)
Doubles Finalist
Special K.
Mon. 10th Jan > Nick Kyrgios is in doubt for Australian Open after [+] Covid Test
Again the News article is clear that 7 day iso' is mandated + AO policy. (Breach this & yer out!) Easy!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/10/nick-kyrgios-in-doubt-for-...
Nick knows & confirms such > Maybe 1st round Monday night / Tuesday should the draw allow?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/tennis/127470437/aussie-tennis-bad-boy-nic...
Tennis Oz : Nick's Girlfriend is a genuine drawcard...we'll sort it!
AO remind Nadal & Nick to keep diverting the breach heat > Look over there at my Bro ...The Joker
https://www.sportingnews.com/au/tennis/news/australian-open-nick-kyrgios...
Sun .16th Jan Nick's Lear Jet slimes into Melbourne > Rules say Day 8 arrival not day 6 > (2 day breach)
https://thewest.com.au/news/australian-open-2022-nick-kyrgios-preparing-...
Nick/Babe on centre court on Sunday's TV ...Another AO VIP piss-take (Fuck Dan's Covid Safe Laws)
There you have it ATP 1/2/3 drug cheats boss the Finals!
Crowd do the right thing and applaud World's biggest Dope cheats event since 80's Olympics!
edit. Meant shoredump”SD” not sanguine “SG”
And The Prize For "Worst Journalism Of The Year" Goes To...
Authored by Kit Knightly via Off-Guardian.org,
Media Lies & the Sacred Rites of the Vaccine Cult
The coverage of Szilveszter Csollany’s death shows you being called an “anti-vaxxer” is more about what you think, than what you do.
The Independent has put out an early (and strong) entry for “Worst Journalism of the Year” award, reporting yesterday the death of Hungarian gymnastics coach Szilveszter Csollany under the headline:
Anti-vax Olympic gold medalist Szilveszter Csollany dies of Covid, aged 51
The glaring issue with this headline becomes clear just three paragraphs into the article [our emphasis]:
While Csollany had, according to [Hungarian newspaper Blikk], expressed anti-vaccination views on social media, the six-time World Championship medallist had been vaccinated to allow him to continue to work as a gymnastics coach.
The journalism is terrible, criminally bad.
The evidence supplied for Csollany’s supposed “anti-vaccination views” is non-existent. Second-hand hearsay, at best. No direct quotations, no sources provided.
OffGuardian would be ashamed to publish something so flimsy. Any outlet should.
But, of course, that isn’t the most egregious part – as you can tell from our emphasised quote – the supposed “anti-vaxxer” had been vaccinated.
To bury that in the body, under that headline, is deliberate deception. They know many people will read the title and assume he hadn’t had the vaccine without ever reading the body of the text, and they are relying on that to spread an intentionally false impression.
The very definition of disinformation.
After deliberately misrepresenting the man’s life, they proceed to do the same to his death. Not even granting him the respect of an honest appraisal of his last weeks alive, they totally ignore all the relevant questions pertaining to the man’s health.
They never question why a previously healthy 51-year-old would ever need to be put on a ventilator, or consider how ventilator-associated pneumonia or ventilator-induced trauma may have contributed to his death.
The article readily admits he died “of Covid” despite being vaccinated, but never even attempts to explain that, sparing a throwaway sentence suggesting “he contracted the virus soon after receiving his jab, and thus had not built sufficient levels of antibodies”, which is not supported by any medical opinion or sources.
Having admitted he WAS vaccinated, and only a short time before he died, the article never considers even for a second the obvious logical conclusion: That the vaccine may have played some part in his death, or killed him outright.
It doesn’t even refute the idea, it simply refuses to acknowledge its existence.
But really, the worst aspect of this black-hole of integrity is not the deliberately misleading headline, or the lack of even the most basic journalistic ethics, it is deeper than that. There is an unspoken message concealed within the tone of the writing, and a shifting of linguistic definitions that comes with it.
The implied thought buried in the text is that, even though he was vaccinated, his alleged doubts mean he was still an “anti-vaxxer” and therefore deserved to die. That he brought the Covid curse down upon his head through his expressing “anti-vaccination views”.
As if he called down God’s wrath through speaking heresy.
This is not the first time we have seen the narrative try and separate the meaning of “anti-vaxxer” from a person’s vaccination status.
In Australia the Northern Territories Premier Michael Gunner recently told the media :
If you support or give comfort to anybody who argues against the vaccine, you are an anti-vaxxer, I don’t care what your personal vaccination status is.
Yes, in Australia an anti-vaxxer can be a vaccinated person who “gives comfort” to someone who argues against the vaccine, they don’t have to agree with the anti-vaxxer they simply have to tolerate them.
It’s a dark age belief system, where to even hear heresy spoken is to be tainted by it.
This is all part of the redefining, really the broadening, of what people even mean by “anti-vaxxer” in the first place. Yet more “pivoting of our language”.
Szilveszter Csollany is accused of “expressing anti-vaccination views” on social media, but in our current climate that can mean almost anything.
Opposing vaccine mandates, vaccine passports, or the giving of untested vaccines to children. All have been described as “anti-vax” positions.
You could have every vaccine you’ve ever been offered, but decline the Covid “vaccine” to wait for long-term safety data, and still find yourself branded an “anti-vaxxer”.
And now, finally, you can actually be vaccinated, but be labelled an “anti-vaxxer” because you may have previously expressed doubts or asked questions.
The injection has become the quite literal equivalent of a religious rite, where your beliefs are just as important as your actions, maybe even more so.
The vaccines are “safe and effective”, that’s the mantra for the modern age, chanted in televised chapels.
In the beginning, people were told that if you were anti-vaxxer you would die, for the vaccines are the new blood of Christ, and by accepting them into your heart you are promised life eternal.
This conditioning has gone so deep people are inverting it and spitting it back out: Now, if you die, you must have been an anti-vaxxer.
Being vaccinated, but not believing in the vaccine, is just as bad as rejecting the vaccine, and you will remain unvaccinated in spirit.
And like a modern-day ducking stool, if – like poor Szilveszter Csollany – you get the vaccine and die anyway, it shows only that your faith was not strong enough, you were secretly an anti-vaxxer at heart, and the press will say as much in your obituary.
The media all talk this way.
I can’t tell if they do it dishonestly to create this bizarre atmosphere of religious fervour, or they don’t even realise they’re doing it because they’re so caught up in zealotry. And I’m not sure which is worse.
Either way, the endpoint is clear: A world where being “anti-vaccination” is no longer defined by what you do, but by what you say and think or even what you allow others to think.
An all-purpose label, so vague as to be functionally meaningless, but universally applied to anyone who diverts as much as one degree from the mainstream course, turning them into an outsider who must be shunned.
It really is a cult. There’s no other way to describe it.
indo-dreaming wrote:Ben Harding wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:Ben Harding wrote:old-dog wrote:@ blowin and Indo, O.K. agreed he's not in the same league as Jim Banks but I've seen enough Joe Rogan podcasts to work out he's a far right opportunist getting paid 100 million bucks from Spotify to provide a platform for conspiracy nutters and covid misinformation. He lost me when he said Alex Jones was right about micro chips being injected into arms or that Joe Biden was funding experiments on beagle puppies putting their heads in cages full of sand flies.
I am sick of the whole woke left PC apologists too but this guy is a bit too extreme right for me, over 1000 doctors tried to have him shut down for his anti vax misinformation. Still there is no money to be made from agreeing with the 99% of experts. I'm with Neil Young on this one. Cheers fellas.Sure, far right on some things like his despisal of identity politics and far left on others like his call for drug reform and decriminalisation. Like most humans his politics appear to be a mash up. He does come across as consistantly anti-establishment though, which would be far left? Not unlike Neil Young (*back in the day anyway).
Wasn't it only 270 doctors? Even so, 1000 doctor's is only 0.1 of the registered phsycians in the United states. A significant percentage of those signatories weren't registered physicians either. Did you see the list? A real mix of crew. Anyway, not a large number considering the reach potential (global) of online petitions wouldn't you say. I wouldn't take too much comfort in the numbers supporting the request for censorship as they were tiny in the grand scheme of things.
"a far right opportunist"
Really???
He see's himself as left leaning, many people that are left leaning have ideals similar to his like over identity politics or dont want to get the Covid Jab etc.
Funny how people label people based on one or two beliefs, even myself a proud conservative have lots of traditionally left leaning ideals, im not a fan of religion for instance, i do believe in a certain level of pubic funded health care, and im open to sensible drug reform, and think multicultural society can be a good thing if managed correctly, pro renewables too (although understand the need for other fuel sources during a transition period) just a few examples.
Oh and apparently weirdly enough being pro vax is now viewed as left leaning by some and im pro vax.
But i also hold lots of conservative beliefs social and economical, so see myself as a conservative.
BTW. I dont know what Alex Jones said about microchips being injected into humans, but it is a real thing, it's no secret, you can even get them for vaccine passports, off course it's not compulsory anywhere to have them but we really dont know what the future holds 20 to 50 years time.
And the beagle sand fly thing well i dont know if it's been totally busted https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/answering-questions-about-beaglegate/
Even seems Peta believe it, does that make them right wing? https://www.peta.org/blog/fauci-niaid-puppies-animal-testing/
I agree, it wasn’t me who called him "a far right opportunist".
I am tired of debating back and forth, but also want to get my points across, so I went for the middle ground. There has to be another way to communicate with people here rather than just being a 24/7 contrarian, dismissing or arguing against anything that one doesn't agree with.
I looked up all the things you did and found that it was as inconclusive as you've found it to be.
Yeah i wasn't necessarily aiming my reply at you, just joining in the conversation. :)
Haha, fair enough mate! I reckon for the most part Joe is a pretty open book considering.
Joe Biden: “You’re Not Going To Get COVID If You Have These Vaccinations.”
Tony Fauci: “You Become A Dead End To The Virus.”
Rochelle Walensky: “Vaccinated People Do Not Carry The Virus — They Don’t Get Sick.”
Alberta Bourla: “[O]ur COVID-19 vaccine was 100% effective in preventing #COVID19 cases in South Africa. 100%!”
Bill Gates: “A key goal [of the vaccination program] is to stop transmission.”
Rachel Maddow: “Now we know that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.”
Francis Collins: “‘[R]eason to be pretty optimistic’ that the available COVID-19 vaccines will be effective against the new Omicron variant of the virus; All of the other variants that have emerged during this COVID-19 pandemic have shown response to the vaccine, including Delta
Brian Stelter: “The newspaper [USA Today] describes ‘America’s fourth Covid-19 surge,’ noting this ‘didn’t have to happen,’ since vaccinations are so widely available. The headlines are followed by a call to action: ‘Let’s end it now.’”
Honorable Mention, any of your obnoxious friends or family members: “You’re an anti-vaxxer. The vaccines are safe. They work. I’m doing my part. I’m better than you. You’re unsafe to be around. Just do your part. You’re selfish. Trust the science. Do you know more science than Fauci?
Canadian Trucker convoy heading to the capital.
Treudeau suddenly came down with covid and is in hiding.
Lame Street Media trying to blame it on russians.
Tbb, as usual a long read but that’s some interesting info you put in there
Blowin, have you got a link to the original article?
Supafreak wrote:Stok wrote:Supafreak wrote:Josh leading by example
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anyone care to caption this photo ?Rules are rules! He's outside! No mask needed ;)
Oh ok so no need to social distance outside , yep no problem , what you gonna say next stok ? They are members of his immediate family ? Or maybe he’s just got brain fog.
Or we could just vote em out of office, so Joshy can announce he had been proud to serve Australia, but now it's time to move on to other ventures and spend time with his family.
Scary thing he is probably most capable individual of his whole government front bench and still over looks $60 billion mistake... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Better economic managers... Haha
10 / 4 Rubber Ducky we got ourselves a 70k long CONVOY.
Put up the link blowin if you have it please
All good, found it
Tyler durden. When I cut and pasted a paragraph of blowins article it directed me to another site where the article is also shown. Your name is at the top of the article.
So why do you need the link off blowins post?
I gather you’re employed by that website?
Just interested to know and I thought it was a strange coincidence.
Apologies if this is already known by everyone
Alana_a wrote:Tyler durden. When I cut and pasted a paragraph of blowins article it directed me to another site where the article is also shown. Your name is at the top of the article.
So why do you need the link off blowins post?
I gather you’re employed by that website?
Just interested to know and I thought it was a strange coincidence.Apologies if this is already known by everyone
Not the same tyler durdan , no apologies needed a few others have been confused in the past .
Roger that! 10-4. Over
Thanks for the article, Blowin. The author, Kit Knightly, certainly raises some thought-provoking points about what the term “anti-vaxxer” means. I remember BD raising this issue a few pages ago in this thread. I think you can be fully vaccinated and still “anti-vax”, especially if you were coerced into getting vaccinated and/or you zealously promote the argument that the vaccines are ineffective and dangerous. However, there are many people, myself included, who promote the benefits of the vaccines but are opposed to mandates and passports; I think those who hold this unique position are not “anti-vaxxers”. Unfortunately, too many are quick to dismiss such people as “anti-vaxxers”.
My main criticism of Knightly’s article is the accusation that the original article from The Independent implied that Csollany deserved to die, although it’s difficult to judge without reading the entirety of that article. I also question Knightly’s emotionally-charged suggestion that Csollany died as a result of the vaccine. Nevertheless, Knightly sure has some valid points, particularly with regard to what it means to be “anti-vax”.
Here’s a link to Knightly’s article:
https://off-guardian.org/2022/01/26/media-lies-the-sacred-rites-of-the-v...
Even some friends we know that were avoiding unvaxed people in closed quarters have seen the light now, thought they were doing the right thing getting jabbed but still ended up getting covid off the vaxed.
The tide is turning. They don't work.
“Follow the (our conclusion-based) science (or else)!!!” They say…
“But, that’s not how science works!” Says the “fringe minority”.
Robo wrote:Even some friends we know that were avoiding unvaxed people in closed quarters have seen the light now, thought they were doing the right thing getting jabbed but still ended up getting covid off the vaxed.
The tide is turning. They don't work.
You reckon the reason people avoid you was the unvaxed status?
bonza wrote:Stok wrote:bonza wrote:"I don't think kids should be vaxxed, especially whilst omicron is the dominante strain. "
stok thinks you are stupid.
Nah, he doesn't prance around sharing articles from grifters and claiming we need to save the kids.
Also, my personal views for kids and covid are not too dissimilar to RK here.
ok. i must have misinterpreted you. Why is your view opposed to the current Australian health recommendations on covid vax for kids? and why doesn't this make you a anti-vaxxer?
Yeah stok, when did you stop listening to the experts and go down the anti-vaccine propaganda hole? Aren’t you supposed to do what the experts tell you to. You goose.
etarip wrote:Robo wrote:Even some friends we know that were avoiding unvaxed people in closed quarters have seen the light now, thought they were doing the right thing getting jabbed but still ended up getting covid off the vaxed.
The tide is turning. They don't work.You reckon the reason people avoid you was the unvaxed status?
didn't say they were avoiding me
Just a quick thanks to whoever the Real Donald Trump is that's posting on here. You're a legend and your posts are greatly appreciated. Also to all the other crew standing up and showing this whole thing for what it really is. Deeply grateful for your courage in this time where standing up and saying NO leaves you open to get slain by the masses. Legends, the lot of ya. I'm sure Huey is watching! Cheers.
I'm also really grateful to him and you and the others like you. When I'm having a bad day and I think that it's tough for me in this world having at best a mediocre intellectual capacity, I can read the gibberish of idiots like him and you and for a brief moment feel like a monumental genius. thanks again and keep up the good work.
Robo didn't you get banned for your childish outburst?
Oh well....so, you're sharing a channel 7 reporters post? Are they MSN, or not?
But really, how can a grown man post that last paragraph publicly? I don't see a lot of 'doomsaying', and oh, because he's HAD covid now he can provide all advice to everyone.
I get my flu injections most years because I don't want/can't afford a week or two feeling under the weather, which could actually be worse.
I got my covid vaxes and booster for the same reason. Not out of fear, but because I don't like feeling sick, if I can avoid it.
There are people truly scared of covid - those who are immuno comprimised, and immediate family/friends of these people.
wallpaper wrote:I'm also really grateful to him and you and the others like you. When I'm having a bad day and I think that it's tough for me in this world having at best a mediocre intellectual capacity, I can read the gibberish of idiots like him and you and for a brief moment feel like a monumental genius. thanks again and keep up the good work.
+1
Yep, great for a chuckle!
soggydog wrote:Yeah stok, when did you stop listening to the experts and go down the anti-vaccine propaganda hole? Aren’t you supposed to do what the experts tell you to. You goose.
Well, I'm not going to lie, I do stay in touch with anti vax propaganda, to see what the messaging is like. Some of it rubs off on me u guess?
Both my kids have had covid, and are below the current age groups considered for vaxxing in Aus. If they were older, or the health advice was different I'd get appropriate advice and make my own choice.
Call me an anti vaxxer to If you want. I've always said my biggest gripe is those who push out their contrarian ideas not taking any accountability for what they're saying, and really, they only do it for their own selfish reasons.
And for those that don't matter.....nothing.
I've created a spreadsheet forecast which I'll update as we go..
There's also a website with live running data.. https://sites.google.com/view/stayhomeaustralia