understanding maps/wave data

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davetherave started the topic in Saturday, 14 Mar 2015 at 3:33pm

just poed a question in building trade swells about a synoptic map. would like all you blokes to add your input. dont share if you want to keep knowledge secret, but i am interested in getting to know how you put all thess prognosis' together. i bet some of the beginners would anyway. hope u can help, interesting i stuff i reckon especially with all your own takes on it. There are probably lots of feeds back to previous threads. thanks guys. But look at the map im taking about, it to me looks like heaven on earth, except she moved too fast. what do u reckon?

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Sheepdog Saturday, 14 Mar 2015 at 4:44pm

No cradling high, Dave...... But she's a beast of a system....

Here's a picture of a nicely cradled low off SEQ, Davo...... Note the high just west of South island NZ, creating a nice little squeezed fetch on the south side of the low...... Pumping at burliegh......

Also, as Ben often points out, the direction the cyclone or low moves is crucial.... Lets just say Pam was heading southwest straight at the goldy, maaaaaaate.... Just imagine a bulldozer pushing through sand.... Yeah, you're gonna get some sand spilling off the side, but right in front of bulldozer is full on.... That's pretty simplified, and not exactly scientifically correct, but it's close enough.... lol

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Sheepdog Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:01pm

Gee, dave..... None of the chefs wanna pass on their secrets..... You're just gonna have to learn like the rest of us ;)

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wellymon Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:04pm

Like a good smack on the Arse.

I mean a snow plough, clearing the road in SEQ......?

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wellymon Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:06pm

There has to be a better more comprehensive map than that Sheepio.......?

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wellymon Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:07pm

Did you draught that yourself..?

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Sheepdog Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:08pm

Yeah, welly.... Only one I had onfile at the time..... Lazy bastard lol.....

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wellymon Sunday, 15 Mar 2015 at 7:26pm

Lets find one then!
Dunnio Weather doesn't want to contribute...? Southey...o....? Shaunio.....? Bennio.....? Craig o...? Zeno...?
Floydio...? Simbaio...? Grugo...? Morris..o, Welleyio....? All the restio........! TC.o..! Brutio...? MC..io....? Come on ..io give us some thing fellas and girls;)
Medina or Freddio P...???, you guys gonna contribute or are you both stuck so far up......... somewhere you both don't know where is where. Or where the next swell is coming except the money out of my sponsors arse.

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Sheepdog Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 10:00am

Hey, welly ya goose!!! isobars in the above map are in 4hpa increments.... 2hpa would make it look sexier... I suppose that's a lesson in itself....... ;)

Chefs are very guarded with their secrets, welly..... Maybe dave needs to get a kitchenhand job first lol

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wellymon Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 3:41pm

Glad you got rid that drunk post of mine from the front page Sheepio.
Geez how embarrassing, but hey thats what happens, poor ol Davo just wanted some input from the SN high tech weather gurus .
All he got was bulldozers which is a great explanation lol, and cranky Welly whinging about the princess pro's haha
Anyways todays from a different spectrum....?
Surface pressure GFS (hPa)

Isotachs (kph)

Streamlines 200 hPa

Southey, Sheepio are Streamlines Jet stream systems high up..?
From Southey's previous mind boggling posts on weather , I'm beginning to feel there is more to just surface pressures where upper atmospheres like jet streams etc have a huge effect...?
All these configurations of various weather maps kind of say a bigger picture than what people can't appreciate...? Big jigsaw puzzle that even the worlds biggest computer models at the moment can't comprehend......
Altho SN wams 8 days ago come pretty clean IMO:)

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Sheepdog Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 3:57pm

Maaate.... I'm just "huey from hueys cooking adventures"..... You'll have to speak to Ben Calombaris, Manu Brokensha or Heston Southey for all that fancy shite..... Re upper level - I'll just look for upper lows and disturbances moving in from Timor during winter bomb season...... And cyclones are more of a gut call for me, having been associated with them since the age of 4 years old.....

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wellymon Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 4:05pm

Haha classic call Sheepio.
Was just trying to put a spanner in the works for all the weathery nerds......!
Have not one bite yet...?
Lets see eh!

Maybe go to WZ forums...;)

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Sheepdog Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 4:20pm

You're a funny c*nt, welly..... BTw just had a look at burleigh cam.... Yeah.... Solid..... You know, when I was young, Burleigh was ranked as one of the best right hand points in the world..... It now looks like a joke.... A bad joke..... This same swell in 85 would've had every gold coast point in all their glory.... The sand pumping has fucked it..... Every man and his gimp at snapper, Cbin, or under par kirra......

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davetherave Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 5:30pm

thanks boys, i have a fair knowledge of weather patterns and systems, but just wanted to see some sharing but no, dont give anythiing away, we have many ranting on the politco thread about our stae of the nation and world whereSECRECY was one of the worst problems, but transparency in surfing is not the same- we dont want to share- see ia m different, i live at the superbank and share, share, share is all i do, cause i care!!!!!!!!!

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wellymon Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 5:38pm

uuuuuMMMMMMM
Yeah I see what you're saying I wasn't here back then......

Still no reply from the ................. Weather nuts.
I'm not a weather nut but I will tell ya Sheepio

"There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge"

or

"Practise is the best of all instructors"

or

"The secret of Weather is not to expect" that one is quoted from Welly;)

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wellymon Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 5:42pm

Ohh stop it Davo.
I'm trying to help ya.
Haven't you realised that....!

"The secret of Weather is not to expect" that one is quoted from Welly;)

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davetherave Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 5:56pm

stop taliking about your sex life welly, but same as mine, i dont expect anything
yeah thats the beauty of the complexity of the Biosphere Planet Earth.
anything goes.

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Sheepdog Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 6:01pm

Wellyfucious.........Hmmmm...... "The ox may be slow,,,,,,,, but the earth is patient....."...... "A nod is as good as a wink to a blind bat"......
But the best would be ----- "For every foot deducted, it ads one inch in the mind"....... :p

And wellyfucious say "man who edits post must be mailman"...... heheheeeee....

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wellymon Monday, 16 Mar 2015 at 7:35pm
davetherave wrote:

stop taliking about your sex life welly,

Haha D-Ravo pretty much like thunder eh- BOOM BOOM

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 9:58am

Welly.... The phantom tassie graffiti artist story..... It's a good story... A fair story.... A story with a beginning , then a bit in the middle, and to top it off, an ending.... You can't ask for much more than that, really....

The artist started the story with a simple 2 word comment in a wooden bench..... "Sheepdog wanks"..
So that's Artist -1.... Sheepdog - 0
The dog wrote a reply.... it then read "Sheepdog wanks his HUGE cock"....

Artist - 1 Sheepdog - 1

The artist came back with a ball in the back of the net - "Sheepdog wanks his HUGE cock over gay porn"....

Artist - 2 sheepdog - 1

The dog counter attacked...... "Sheepdog wanks his HUGE cock over gay porn of you sucking dick"....

Artist - 2 sheepdog -2

It went to extra time...... With seconds on the clock, the artist made his move.....
Underneath "Sheepdog wanks his HUGE cock over gay porn of you sucking dick", the artist scrawled........... "But I'm only 12 yo"...........

There is no comeback from that..... I screamed "offside", but to no avail....... The whistle blew..... 3 - 2 to the artist.........The artist held up the southern sledge trophy..... The dog gracefully applauded the artist on a game well played........

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wellymon Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 3:10pm

"There is no comeback from that..... I screamed "offside", but to no avail....... The whistle blew..... 3 - 2 to the artist.........The artist held up the southern sledge trophy..... The dog gracefully applauded the artist on a game well played........"

Too right Sheepio.
IMO I would've felt a little uneasy....! So to speak.

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Sheepdog Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 3:37pm

Nah.... Class comeback...... I was gonna write "I know"...... But thought let the artist have his win lol.....

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Blowin Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 11:29pm

If that is fair dinkum then it's All Time.

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davetherave Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 11:41pm

u should said, ' get real and b original or premiture ejucalationconfession, and every more graffiti shows how you blow your load before the barrels ended.

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davetherave Tuesday, 17 Mar 2015 at 11:45pm
wellymon wrote:
davetherave wrote:

stop taliking about your sex life welly,

Haha D-Ravo pretty much like thunder eh- BOOM BOOM

one big noisy clap then gone!!!!!!!!!!!