NSW voted in MARK LATHAM!!!!!!!!

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Sheepdog started the topic in Sunday, 24 Mar 2019 at 1:02pm

NSW can no longer crack jokes at Qld for being a backward conservative nutter state - here's a list of what NSW has given us - MARK BLOODY LATHAM Tony Abbott. Barnaby Joyce, John Howard, Sco Mo, McCormack, Alan Jones, Ray hadley, Fred Nile, Ben Fordham, Jim Molan, Craig Kelly, Concetta Fierravanti-Wells........... I'm sure there's more....

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:26pm

I think diversity in the workplace is important but should it be imposed upon the workers in an organisation? I think a policy of diversity purely for the sake of being 'diverse' breeds resentment. For example, your workplace is made up almost entirely of non-binary, black, muslim one-nation voters and as part of your 'diversity strategy' you must now set a quota of white, privately educated people who identify as males regardless of their skills or qualifications. This, predictably can only lead to unrest within the organisation resulting in discontent, job loss and no doubt a reduction in productivity.

Wouldn't the ultimate goal be to foster inclusiveness? Focussing solely on diversity as a group disregards the uniqueness of people as individuals. I'd argue having an inclusive working environment respecting the individual rather than setting a quota for one particular group would no doubt naturally lead to a diverse workplace. That would be how you could measure your success. A happy workforce is a productive workforce. A productive workforce is a profitable workforce. The converse also applies.

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AndyM Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:33pm

Equality of opportunity seems a lot more reasonable than an enforced equality of outcome.

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:39pm

110% Andy.

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Blowin Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:48pm

It’s not about furthering productivity it’s about open borders and one world market / government.

The miracle of diversity is the cover story .

As soon as people are demanding that Arnhem Land , Sentinel islands and the remaining Amazonian tribes need diversity then I’ll believe we all need diversity to thrive.

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blindboy Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:58pm

Yeh yeh yeh, let's focus on the common cold (ie the odd person from a minority group who is less competent than the white bloke they were competing with) and ignore the raging 'flu epidemic of discrimination. Sounds like horseshit, smells like horseshit, yep, no doubt about it - horseshit!

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 4:58pm

I'm kinda talking about the here and now, not ancient tribes blowy.

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 5:03pm

No horseshit, equal competence but by human nature the majority will resent that person being favoured or conversely again will discriminate against that person. That's why I mentioned inclusiveness and the strength of the individual which in turn leads to diversity naturally.

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blindboy Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 5:31pm

So lots of discrimination against minorities is occurring, but the key to understanding the situation is to focus on the rare occasion when a person from a minority gains some unfair advantage over a white bloke ....... and that somehow causes discrimination. Still a steaming pile from my perspective.

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 5:51pm

not at all, those are your words.

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blindboy Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 5:55pm

Fair enough zen, sorry if I misinterpreted but that's what I got out of it. Maybe try again.

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 6:37pm

Sometimes I'm not so good at extrapalating my thoughts. What I'm trying to say, regardless of the make up of the majority, having a policy that forces people to accept others based purely on filling quotas to satisfy a diversity policy disregards human nature. I think people are more willing to accept someone if they're able to do the job at hand that adheres to the standard set by the group. That's why i said it would be better to aim for inclusiveness as the end goal. For example, you may have a group of hardworking Fillipino Australians working in a hotel laundry, introduce a policy that they now need to include more white Australians regardless of whether they can do the job or not and both parties will be unhappy. Or, you have a group of white, privately educated male lawyers, introduce an equally well educated woman, is she going to feel safe, accepted, valued?

I can't really put it into words but i hope you can get the gist of what I'm saying? I think that the goal for all organisations should be to foster inclusiveness and value the uniqueness of the individual, not to impose upon people a policy of forced equality. That's why i believe that a person should be in a job based on merit rather than because they identify with a certain group.

But, you're correct as well, discrimination is rife but in my opinion it's not the sole domain of the white man (except in oz politics) you need go no further than a man of any colour trying to become a primary school teacher for want of a better example.

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blindboy Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 7:23pm

Well zen my step-son is currently studying to become a Primary teacher and because of historical issues, there is a shortage of men in the job and so there is actually positive discrimination in favour of men. Beyond that I understand your point but believe it is utopian and that discrimination is a much more serious issue

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zenagain Tuesday, 26 Mar 2019 at 8:36pm

Good on him BB, there's no greater reward than working with kids.

But, i should have said as a man lasting as a primary school teacher. Sailing into some headwinds there.