CHINA!!!!

Thanks, fascinating read. Hopefully the anti-CRISPR technology can be developed enough to give the fine control you'd need to do targeted therapeutic editing safely - seems promising, but a while off.
Interesting too r.e the IP lawsuits - I wasn't aware of that.

Sadly , I foresee Australia becoming just another province of China by 2050.

I think that they’ll probably have the top end well before that. I’d be surprised if the defence forces haven’t already envisioned a modern variant of the Brisbane line, but they’re kidding themselves.

China will just take what it hasn’t already acquired.

https://www.afr.com/business/agriculture/crops/the-next-cubbie-station-c...

The acquiescence of Darwin will be a medium term formality.

It’s only the US interests in the North West which has slowed them down to date. If you’ve ever wondered what Australia gains from allowing US companies to harvest our gas resources without taxation and with negligible royalties, the security they provide is your answer.

Please tell me why a Chinese state owned company needs its own airstrip adjacent to its deep water port , desal plant , fuel depot and accomodation .

Karratha airport is 50 kms down a dead straight road without a single turn or traffic light. Karratha airport serviced the construction and production stages of this mine without problem for years before the new airport was built. Do you actually expect me to believe that a mining company would spend millions and millions of dollars constructing and maintaining an airstrip in order to improve worker comfort or improve fatigue management !

Literally unbelievable.

China wanted to build this airstrip from day one and run it and their mine with entirely Chinese workforce and the government resisted for years on security reasons. Why did they get it approved now ? The government is quietly shitting themselves and are appeasing the Chinese incrementally in order to prolong the inevitable.

Exceptions being those politicians currently white anting our democracy and rule over this land through their corrupt enabling of the stealthy Chinese incursion .

Thanks for speaking out on this Blowin - Absolutely spot on.

The same nefarious white ants selling out our country cry racism (as appalling and desperate subterfuge) to try and stymie any discourse around this.

Not sure why we flog our land to any foreign national. It makes no sense at all.
On foreign policy while the west was busy needlessly interfering in the Middle East over the last 20 years it let China just do whatever it wanted and expand where it wanted. South China Sea, what's that all about? Oh, successive governments here have cut back foreign aid to the Pacific and to our north, no problem the Chinese have filled the void, WTF are we so stupid? Yes it seems so.

Complacent and corrupt

Smartest group of people on the earth, this dude nailed it.

Demonstrably not as your need to repost proves.

Will Australia be the location of the potential proxy war between US and China ?

A very large and valuable prize for the victor , remote from their populations and symbolic in demography.

Freedom of navigation exercises may be a way to find out.

China simply takes Oz land now & we're far too lazy to give a shit.

Dutto goes spazz over outta town Cairns Crab potters or a Pommie Jetski jumper.
Chinese Antarctic Bases on Oz territory have been off Dutto's radar for 10 years.
China decides when Oz can visit Secret Antarctic Bases on Oz Territory.

World believes that makes Oz war'crims in any GPS based military strikes on West.

Think!
*Yanks (lease) Pine Gap GPS Base (vs) Chinese (free) South Pole GPS Bases.
*Johnnies roll in the hay with the butcher mid Coalition of Killing (Iraq Invasion)

*PM discovers Antarctic Weapons of Mass Destruction on secret Chinese Base.
World choruses :"Too bad so sad Oz!"

Piss poor Aussies are grouse at spreading vegemite on both sides of our toast.

Coward Dutto got the guts to shine a torch on squatters in the basement freezer.
World say gutless Aussies are surfing South China Sea wave to the South Pole.

"Ruddy rude Aussies neva runce change igloobnb sheetz nor rave...ni hao!"
tbb is so sorry to Chinese Army squatters...I was way outta line to our masters.

China will soon be making a territorial claim on Oz territory & Oz will roll over & die.
The world awaits Oz PM reply : "Up your nose with a rubber hose!"
I think we've just turned Chinese...I really know so!

Where were u all when Aussie companies moved production to China????
This is hilarious.. Anyhow, enjoy the quicky pro yeah?

Wise old jungle saying "god made the earth China made everything else "

How is it hilarious, Sheepy ?

http://fmshooter.com/climate-change-alarmists-routinely-ignore-chinese-f...

"China, the world’s leading emitter of greenhouse gases from coal, has been burning up to 17 percent more coal a year than the government previously disclosed, according to newly released data. "

Some absolutely damning charts and stats in there. If it continues, and the link between CO2 and AGW is correct as modelled, looks like a 4m+ sea level rise is going to happen then.

You will surely mostly agree that it's time for a conversation on this topic, otherwise CO2 will never be reduced,

Try work this sucker out and how it even got the steam it did.

Apparently even has a hospice planned. Wonder how that works??

https://www.news.com.au/travel/australian-holidays/tasmania/china-sets-i...

All true vj but do you really think China is going to get serious when their per capita emissions are still less than half of ours and the US? This is the point idiots like Abbott just don't get. China aspires to a standard of living just as high as the west and if we are prepared to be irresponsible about how we maintain our standard of living, then they will do the same. The richest nations on the planet need to lead. The EU has made a good start. We, and other large wealthy emitters need to catch up if we want China to control their emissions,

Ever noticed that China is never at fault or responsible according to Blindboy ? There’s always an excuse to defend them.

And he thinks that we should lead China because we are wealthier ! Are you sure about that , BB ?

Don’t forget that a large percentage of Australia’s carbon footprint is accountable to foreign owned coal mines and industrial agricultural including its associated clear felling .

Who owns a large percentage of these ......China.

........... and the process has enriched us all. But watch out Blowin my mates at Huawei have got the flux capacitor down to the size of a mobile phone. Any further exposure of our evil schemes and they will zap you straight to Beijing in 2050 and leave you standing naked in Tianamenn Square!

More seriously, if you can't be bothered understanding China then you increase your vulnerability. As I have said several times before China will be ruthless in its self interest but is unlike.y to become a direct military threat. If you think that that constitutes denying fault, then we are clearly speaking different languages.

Yeah , you’re speaking fluent Denial with an accent of Apologism.

You won’t have to send me to Beijing to be surrounded by Chinese. I was just in Sydney it’s not far off already.

BB
The earth doesn't care about per capita numbers. It cares about total output.

China 9,040,740,000 metric tonnes 2015
Australia 380,930,000 metric tonnes 2015

Also, India and China are classified as developing nations yet have Space Programs.

And if those numbers are 17% under-reported, that's 10,577,655,800 tonnes in 2015.

They are the worlds leading solar manufacturer, no? Leading in rare earth metals and battery tech? They can have a similarly wealthy, cleaner lifestyle - but why do they make the same mistake we made, building hundreds of coal fired power plants?

My last trip through the Hunter Valley, it was going gangbusters, rush hour extended 120kms inland, new mine being built, heaps of contractors, going absolutely flat tack.

Stay ignorant mate. It would be a pity to spoil a perfect record of illogical drivel. What do we want? Higher wages, lower immigration, Australian manufacturing, better protection from the great Satan to our north, reductions in overseas investment, less development, better roads, schools, hospitals. Ha ha ha good luck with tonight's budget and keep listening to the little folk at the bottom of the garden, your views are always worth a laugh.

& yes it is discouraging to see the pics of industrial carnage come from China - when you consider the religious views are very much in tune with nature and the flow of energy through it. Very old beliefs and techniques with a rightful connection to the earth and universe around us. I do hope they preserve and rejuvenate their landscapes.

Is Australia cleaner today than in the past? What are we doing well at present - would these ideas have some influence?

Don't know if that one was aimed at me, but you are welcome to your interpretation.

vj, you are right. I am just explaining their position. Their people aspire to our lifestyle and they will do their best to provide it, including the prestige of space programs. I am always surprised when people expect developing nations to do the heavy lifting while we continue to enrich ourselves by failing to reduce our emissions. Through their eyes we are just greedy bastards, which is how history will judge Australians over this period.

One point tho - that better protection bit: there is an Asian arms race going on, and historical review of those of the past suggest that when others do, it is generally wiser to respond in kind rather than do nothing.

What are we doing well at the present? Well a significant percentage of us are having a whale of a time at the expense of the environment, cheap labour in developing countries, complete irresponsibility in the face of a global refugee crisis and exploitation of local cheap labour, including our children's. So our greatest current achievement? An absolute zen-like mastery of the the art of detachment from just about everything except raw self-interest.

Ah ok, got that. I've definitely seen their happy surprise at our environment, and interacted with them in their enjoyment of it - it's a nice thing that brings people together. One lady mentioned northern China would be -35 to -50 with strong bitterly cold winds, so she really enjoyed being out here in Oz.

They have an opportunity (as we do) with the new technology being innovated - China could go very green and be in harmony with nature while still being much of the world's workshop. Or perhaps we could as well - this post is completely solar powered for example, and I nurse the old PC so as not to need a new one. Less waste. Plastics replaced with woods. Resins going enviro. Solar steelmills. etc. Cars going electric, hydrogen fuels from ammonia like CSIRO has achieved with their membrane. With all this positive opportunity, I scratch my head at the number of coal plants going up.

Every single point you just made applies to China infinitely more than it does Australia.....yet you hate Australia.

Fuck off to China then.

"Love it or leave it you bloody mongrel!" Classic retro attitude. Whee hoo back to '72.

Better cough up that 50% tax on those stock windfalls mate. Cause the smaller more protectionist Australia, with an aging population, won't function without out. How long do you plan on living? What bout your kids?

Indeed love it or leave it.

Why don’t you go tread water off Cheviot beach till the mini sub arrives ?

Watch out Blowin, those Huawei agents are closing in, better stay out of Sydney!

It's actually not too bad a place to briefly visit as a tourist.

12 hours was just about enough.

You think I should have stayed long enough to write a thesis ?

I've been a couple of times, I think it's quite a fascinating place to visit.

(If you count Vancouver, make that a half a dozen times.)

Yeah you would have been a real fish out of water over there Blowin.

Expel Tony Wang from Australia ASAP

Official censure to the Chinese government regarding their interference in our sovereignty. Bring this to a head sooner rather than later. The Chinese control of Chinese diaspora is official CCP policy. Should this not be recognised in our immigration policy ?

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-china-s-consulate-bullied-lo...

The Chinese government is looking after it's own interests, cant' blaim them for that, it is pathetic and frustrating that our officials didn't look after our interests rather than kowtowing to a foreign government

Exactly......this thing is riddled through our democracy like cancer.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/04/turnbull-plunges-parliament-int...

From Dutton’s mouth in 2017:

Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has today dumped Dastyari from his role as Deputy Senate Whip after a leaked tape heard the senator defending China’s policy on the South China Sea.

But Immigration Minister Peter Dutton has told 2GB’s Ray Hadley it’s simply not good enough.

“You can’t have a double agent in the Australian parliament.”

Shorten is up to his neck in it too.

Royal commission now !

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2019/05/china-muzzles-world-destroys-mu...

Im not getting involved in that other thread and current discussion.

But I do have to say if only all our immigrants were Chinese, generally hard working and peaceful.

Dont hear of many Chinese gangs causing issues on our streets, or Chinese terrorist, or Australia needing to change society to adapt to Chinese or Buddhist values.

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