Aleppo.....Syrian conflict restarting.

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quadzilla started the topic in Saturday, 30 Nov 2024 at 9:14am

This was a centre of news a while ago and the first 8 minutes of this report shows some rebellion.

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Supafreak Thursday, 12 Dec 2024 at 9:16pm

He nearly took his eye out .

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Exxotixjeff Thursday, 12 Dec 2024 at 9:32pm

So your telling him there’s a chance ?

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seeds Thursday, 12 Dec 2024 at 9:47pm

SexxyJ is a constant shit stirrer.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 13 Dec 2024 at 7:20am
quadzilla wrote:
Fliplid wrote:

If you're talking about the fall of al-Assad I get the impression that it was more of a minority shia based dictatorial regime that stripped the countrys' wealth for the personal gain of just a few

Hard not to have some compassion for the local population who just want a decent life though, but considering this story has been played out for centuries it's hard not to be pessimistic about the outcome

Bonza name by the way

Assad is an Alawite muslim, around 11% in Syria but the 2nd biggest religion behind the Sunnis 74%...the others are Shiite,Druze,some Christians and other minor sect Muslims.

Assad was despised as was his father who took power in 1971.A brutal regime that tortured and murdered whoever it wanted.Used chemical weapons against the people.Russia only backed the regime while it was useful.

So now the majority religion is in "power" along the major highway from Aleppo to Damascus and across to the coast and a bit to the east.

BOMBS away will happen for a while yet, it'll be interesting to see if POOman can still maintain the 2 bases he has there.Assad isnt on his radar anymore, not even a pawn in the game.The Russian fleet is sitting off the coast as a precaution, not sure where the planes are, they tried to eliminate the HTS in Aleppo a week or more ago but failed.Good chance they could be back in Russia.

Alawite muslims on paper actually sound like the most decent Islamic off shoot, no sharia law, no head covering for women, can drink alcohol etc, dare i say it's kind of like a liberal form of Islam, pity the leader/government was a cruel dictator.

It's still a typical middle east shia vs sunni war when you look at all groups involved though.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 13 Dec 2024 at 7:28am
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drug factory...

https://x.com/Levant_24_/status/1866794097106977089

apparently supplying 80% of world's captagon...

I wonder if assad's goons were on it?

seems all the great goons of past conflicts are on the ...amines

nazis

american pilots

oct 7 goons

I even read a terrorist cell pesantren ini indo was feeding the prospective terrorists (kids) ...amines...

having indulged... I know they can twist the mind...

trauma + no purpose + purpose + ideology + brainwashing + brutality + bloodlust = a lethal combo...

and terribly low standards

Hezbollah also finance things from the drug trade this shit but crazy enough Hezbollah are also located in South America and involved in the Cocaine trade.

"Hezbollah in Latin America

History (in Latin America.) The group was established in the 1980s in the tri-border region of Paraguay, Brazil and Argentina which was considered a safe haven for the group's operations of smuggling, recruitment, and plotting of attacks. They expanded into Venezuela with some degree of sponsorship from the Venezuelan state."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah_in_Latin_America#:~:text=4%20Not....

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Chelsea L Friday, 13 Dec 2024 at 9:25am

In my studies and conversations, I've come to understand that most Alawites don't align themselves strictly with Islam or any religious group per se; rather, they see themselves more as an ethnic community.

The situation in Syria is quite the anomaly when you consider the broader landscape of the Middle East. Here, we have a scenario where a minority ethnic group, the Alawites, have held power over a predominantly Muslim populace. From the outset, this setup seemed primed for conflict, not considering the myriad other historical intricacies of the nation.

Yet, in today's media landscape, we're often fed a black-and-white narrative:

The Assad regime, portrayed as a brutal dictatorship that targets Muslims, is unequivocally bad. Conversely, the narrative sometimes frames even the most violent Muslim extremist groups, who persecute non-Muslims, as somehow justified or "good" in their cause. This oversimplification does little justice to the complex tapestry of Syrian society and its struggles.

Yet if you don't toe this simplified line, heaven forbid, you're suddenly branded a Russian spy in the public eye.

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etarip Friday, 13 Dec 2024 at 9:23pm

So… it appears, from Assad Government records, that at least some of the terrorist bombings etc from 2012 onwards were, in fact, regime intelligence operations to provide a basis for crackdowns against the population.

And while ISIS-aligned / inspired / adjacent groups have certainly been active in Syria throughout the civil war, the presence of ISIS-branded product in recently-vacated Russian bases and outposts raises a few more questions.

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etarip Friday, 13 Dec 2024 at 9:27pm

I really don’t know anyone that ascribes to a simplified line about the complexities of the Syrian conflict and its factions. Most people I talk to about it despair at the complexity.

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burleigh Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 7:25am
Chelsea L wrote:

In my studies and conversations, I've come to understand that most Alawites don't align themselves strictly with Islam or any religious group per se; rather, they see themselves more as an ethnic community.

The situation in Syria is quite the anomaly when you consider the broader landscape of the Middle East. Here, we have a scenario where a minority ethnic group, the Alawites, have held power over a predominantly Muslim populace. From the outset, this setup seemed primed for conflict, not considering the myriad other historical intricacies of the nation.

Yet, in today's media landscape, we're often fed a black-and-white narrative:

The Assad regime, portrayed as a brutal dictatorship that targets Muslims, is unequivocally bad. Conversely, the narrative sometimes frames even the most violent Muslim extremist groups, who persecute non-Muslims, as somehow justified or "good" in their cause. This oversimplification does little justice to the complex tapestry of Syrian society and its struggles.

Yet if you don't toe this simplified line, heaven forbid, you're suddenly branded a Russian spy in the public eye.

Why you using AI for your posts?

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quadzilla Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 7:54am
burleigh wrote:
Chelsea L wrote:

In my studies and conversations, I've come to understand that most Alawites don't align themselves strictly with Islam or any religious group per se; rather, they see themselves more as an ethnic community.

The situation in Syria is quite the anomaly when you consider the broader landscape of the Middle East. Here, we have a scenario where a minority ethnic group, the Alawites, have held power over a predominantly Muslim populace. From the outset, this setup seemed primed for conflict, not considering the myriad other historical intricacies of the nation.

Yet, in today's media landscape, we're often fed a black-and-white narrative:

The Assad regime, portrayed as a brutal dictatorship that targets Muslims, is unequivocally bad. Conversely, the narrative sometimes frames even the most violent Muslim extremist groups, who persecute non-Muslims, as somehow justified or "good" in their cause. This oversimplification does little justice to the complex tapestry of Syrian society and its struggles.

Yet if you don't toe this simplified line, heaven forbid, you're suddenly branded a Russian spy in the public eye.

Why you using AI for your posts?

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quadzilla Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 7:55am
quadzilla wrote:
burleigh wrote:
Chelsea L wrote:

In my studies and conversations, I've come to understand that most Alawites don't align themselves strictly with Islam or any religious group per se; rather, they see themselves more as an ethnic community.

The situation in Syria is quite the anomaly when you consider the broader landscape of the Middle East. Here, we have a scenario where a minority ethnic group, the Alawites, have held power over a predominantly Muslim populace. From the outset, this setup seemed primed for conflict, not considering the myriad other historical intricacies of the nation.

Yet, in today's media landscape, we're often fed a black-and-white narrative:

The Assad regime, portrayed as a brutal dictatorship that targets Muslims, is unequivocally bad. Conversely, the narrative sometimes frames even the most violent Muslim extremist groups, who persecute non-Muslims, as somehow justified or "good" in their cause. This oversimplification does little justice to the complex tapestry of Syrian society and its struggles.

Yet if you don't toe this simplified line, heaven forbid, you're suddenly branded a Russian spy in the public eye.

Why you using AI for your posts?

Beats cross stepping a log!

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Chelsea L Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 11:42am

Nothing beats riding a log well on a waist high east coast point.

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seaslug Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 11:44am

We all have different aspirations in life but that certainly is setting the bar low

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 4:01pm
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Nothing beats riding a log well on a waist high east coast point.

Except riding a log well, on a head high East Coast point .
Then you don’t have to try and hang 5 or 10
Or some other pointless trick .

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Optimist Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 4:41pm

Watching a woman stepping elegantly along a log on a nice break is truly a beautiful thing.
Beautiful things are a delight to the soul.
I have been gifted a few longboards in my day which I gave away and thought noseriding was like walking on water….another beautiful thing….
….not just some pointless trick vexxyjeff…… noseriding in overhead waves is fun too as well as waist high.
Im about to purchase my first longboard to add to my quiver and am looking forward to mastering a new thing.
You should get out of your room one day and get off the net and try it…
No matter how hard you constantly try no one in Australia will be voting democrat.

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Supafreak Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 4:43pm

It would be a real blast surfing with EJ , getting educated on how to have the most fun .

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burleigh Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 4:44pm
Chelsea L wrote:

Nothing beats riding a log well on a waist high east coast point.

setting the bar low so you're never disappointed?

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old-dog Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 4:56pm

Watching a true master on a log is a sight to behold, unfortunately what 99% of loggers do is about exciting as a game of lawn bowls.

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 5:30pm

old-dog. Hi mate.

That’s a very biased statement. AW

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old-dog Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 5:45pm

Hi AW, guilty as charged.

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old-dog. Hi mate.

That’s a very biased statement. AW

For the first time in HISTORY i agree with olddog.

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old-dog Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 5:48pm

Yes I shouldn't have said lawn bowls isn't exciting.

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 5:51pm
Optimist wrote:

Watching a woman stepping elegantly along a log on a nice break is truly a beautiful thing.
Beautiful things are a delight to the soul.
I have been gifted a few longboards in my day which I gave away and thought noseriding was like walking on water….another beautiful thing….
….not just some pointless trick vexxyjeff…… noseriding in overhead waves is fun too as well as waist high.
Im about to purchase my first longboard to add to my quiver and am looking forward to mastering a new thing.
You should get out of your room one day and get off the net and try it…
No matter how hard you constantly try no one in Australia will be voting democrat.

Well I bet I haven’t been on the net as long as you nerd
And yes long boards are great,
I started riding them a few years back primarily to beat the crowds on the long East Coast point waves, which I’ve been surfing since the 70s ,
So don’t pretend the big expert hero nerd
And while logs are fun, they will never
cut back and throw spray , or go vertical and in the air like a short board
So if someone raises both hands in the air on a log and says look at my cutback,
What’s your point hero man?

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basesix Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 5:52pm

I got it @AW, very good.

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old-dog Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 6:00pm

Now I get it too. good one AW.

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 6:25pm

Well I guess if you think there’s nothing better than a cut back on a log ,
It’s your right to have that opinion
Kinda like bus races or truck races on a
Formula 1 track , if that’s your thing ,
But some people think Formula 1 cars go better, but I guess that’s just an opinion thing.
If you need an explanation.
To be honest , I think @ Chelsea lost interest in@AW ,when he described her as
Flammable. ,
So if you think AW is an intellectual giant
That’s your opinion as well,

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 6:59pm

Here you go Jeffrey old boy.

Shall See L. Her quote not mine.

She asked me if I was going to burn her.

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Chelsea L wrote:
thank you. So are you going to discuss anything I said, or just try to burn me?

Chelsea L.
Hello, flammable one.
Are you a surfer, if so, where’s ya local .

We’re not nosy at all, but would love to know a bit about you before we get engaged, that’d be only fitting before we establish a relationship wouldn’t you think.

See, of late, we’ve had a fair bit of ‘identity misappropriation’

Are you the real McCoy or just a meal Decoy ?

Your AI generated picture looks like Edith Piaf on a good hair day, I’m just saying.

We are a curious mob. AW

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Exxotixjeff Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 7:14pm
AlfredWallace wrote:

Here you go Jeffrey old boy.

Shall See L. Her quote not mine.

She asked me if I was going to burn her.

AlfredWallace MONDAY, 9 DEC 2024 at 8:49PM
Chelsea L wrote:
thank you. So are you going to discuss anything I said, or just try to burn me?

Chelsea L.
Hello, flammable one.
Are you a surfer, if so, where’s ya local .

We’re not nosy at all, but would love to know a bit about you before we get engaged, that’d be only fitting before we establish a relationship wouldn’t you think.

See, of late, we’ve had a fair bit of ‘identity misappropriation’

Are you the real McCoy or just a meal Decoy ?

Your AI generated picture looks like Edith Piaf on a good hair day, I’m just saying.

We are a curious mob. AW

Oh well of course, now that you’ve put it in context, seems perfectly normal.

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AlfredWallace Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 7:26pm
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Hi AW, guilty as charged.

old-dog.

Straight to the surfing gallows for you.
You’ll be placed in stocks, ball and chains and shipped across the border to the Victorian antipodes and sentenced to spend your entire life on a beach with relentless Summer SE wind swell slop and wind.
Whilst me, judge, jury and executioner travels by coach and horse to SA to water my Equus caballus in the cool upwelling waters that adorn the northern apex of the Bight, pure Ekman transport. Giddy up. AW

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old-dog Saturday, 14 Dec 2024 at 8:04pm

AW hope your Equus caballus breaks down at Port Agutter. ;)

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quadzilla Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 3:29am
Chelsea L wrote:

Nothing beats riding a log well on a waist high east coast point.

This Kook crap should get ya off. really exciting, hey!

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Optimist Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 5:40am

Oh well at least they are having fun on a flat day….dont know why you’d film it.
Harley ingleby can throw spray.
I wonder how Syria will turn out?..….not confident but Israel seem temporarily happy for now….cant see it lasting as they are a jihadi group.
Let’s see how they treat the minorities and non muslims in Syria and that should give an indication.

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Optimist wrote:

Oh well at least they are having fun on a flat day….dont know why you’d film it.
Harley ingleby can throw spray.
I wonder how Syria will turn out?..….not confident but Israel seem temporarily happy for now….cant see it lasting as they are a jihadi group.
Let’s see how they treat the minorities and non muslims in Syria and that should give an indication.

Harley rides a shortboard tail with a BLOB up front, they go good for what they are.

He surfs his mid lengths much better than his competition boards.

The factions in Syria HAVE to come to terms with each other, which means making concessions, otherwise theres a big internal conflict.Twumpy isnt interested apparently, so it'll be good if all Syrians can find the middle ground.

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Exxotixjeff Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 7:55am

“Beautiful things are a delight to the soul ,”
@ optimistic
Well how come hardly any musicians will let Trump play their music, and none of them agree with his far right bigotry ideology ?

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AlfredWallace Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 8:13am
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AW hope your Equus caballus breaks down at Port Agutter. ;)

The chances of that are high. My Equus caballus is born and bred in SA.

For some reason when it comes race day at Morphettville, he, always arrives at the finish line around 30mins after the other competitors .

I still find it fascinating that horses are racing, walking, galloping, trotting and cantering on their vestigial middle toe. Ouch. Tiny surf here hence my crapping on.
Have a good day fella. AW

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 10:04am
Optimist wrote:

Oh well at least they are having fun on a flat day….dont know why you’d film it.
Harley ingleby can throw spray.
I wonder how Syria will turn out?..….not confident but Israel seem temporarily happy for now….cant see it lasting as they are a jihadi group.
Let’s see how they treat the minorities and non muslims in Syria and that should give an indication.

How bizarre is this (not going to happen but interesting all the same)

"Druze in Syria ‘fear new Isis-like leaders and want Israeli rule’

A video shows a meeting of the religious minority group calling for the protection of Israel after the collapse of the Assad regime

The residents of a Druze community in southern Syria have expressed a desire to become part of Israel to prevent assaults by “radical Islamists.”

A video circulating on social media shows a gathering of the religious minority in the Syrian village of Hader, in the buffer zone between Israel and Syria which is now fully controlled by the Israeli Defence Force."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/12/14/druze-in-syria-fear-is...

There are half a dozen Druze villages near the Israel border/buffer zone, the Druze are this weird moderate muslim off shot that has other influences even beleive in reincarnation, normally they are really nationalistic and loyal to the country they live in for instance a large number volunteer to serve in the IDF, so in theory they should be loyal to Syria, but yeah i guess in this case fear the possible Jihadist influence on Syria.

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andy-mac Sunday, 15 Dec 2024 at 10:56am

What a wicked web that has been weaved.
Longer but sober listen, covering a lot...
Happy Sunday.

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